2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

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Re: 2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

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Boom! Pole! What a lap!

dfegan358
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jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:55
Schippke wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:35


As expected has to be said… certain for Pole (then once penalties apply), will start a few positions back, then should easily take the race win barring reliability concerns. That race pace and straight line speed is more than enough.

Why is max certain for pole exactly ?
post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.

politburo
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Get in! Pole position!
"Nosotros diferimos, pero nosotros todos son iguales"

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Almost a 19. Impressive.
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Re: 2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

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WELP… I take it back; Was truly expecting Max and Red Bull to be a lot faster in qualifying; Still put them as the ones to beat for the race tomorrow.

Nice that Charles and Ferrari got that pole position proper, rather than have it gifted due to penalties.

Gillian
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Well deserved Leclerc! Great lap, very nice.

politburo
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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
Get in! Pole position!
"Nosotros diferimos, pero nosotros todos son iguales"

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dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:55



Why is max certain for pole exactly ?
post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
Well, seems it isn't. It's what I guess many people expected though, and some try to argue that RB has a dominant car over Ferrari all season.

Well done by Ferrari, good job by Nyck too. I expected more from Alonso, but unfortunately he didn't get it together.

politburo
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dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:55



Why is max certain for pole exactly ?
post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.
"Nosotros diferimos, pero nosotros todos son iguales"

101FlyingDutchman
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DChemTech wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:05
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58


post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
Well, seems it isn't. It's what I guess many people expected though, and some try to argue that RB has a dominant car over Ferrari all season.

Well done by Ferrari, good job by Nyck too. I expected more from Alonso, but unfortunately he didn't get it together.
Yeah obviously I was being sarcastic. It’s really obvious Spa was an outlier. Presumably mostly because of the increased ride height required which just doesn’t bother the RB18 at all.
I’m glad FER have re-found their mojo here. Maybe returning back to the older floor has given them confidence back

jz11
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Schippke wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:03
WELP… I take it back; Was truly expecting Max and Red Bull to be a lot faster in qualifying; Still put them as the ones to beat for the race tomorrow.

Nice that Charles and Ferrari got that pole position proper, rather than have it gifted due to penalties.
I'm just guessing, but someone said previously that RB takes a while to get to that fast lap, so it might be set up for race rather than pole, we'll see tomorrow, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ferrari burn through their tires and Max just breezes past

my point being - RB puts less energy into the tire, so they can run at this pace for longer periods of time, compared to Ferrari who heat up the tire quickly, but then have to back off to not overcook them, meaning they can't sustain this pace lap after lap after lap

we'll see tomorrow

dfegan358
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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:06
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58


post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.
I’m not saying anything about Ferrari being fast tomorrow. All I said is I don’t think red bull is dominant this week. Could definitely still be the faster race car on Sunday and likely to be, but we have to see the race pan out to declare that. Red bull for sure have the overall faster car lately.

Interesting race for sure tomorrow.

jz11
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dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:55



Why is max certain for pole exactly ?
post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
it was my poor attempt at being sarcastic

Gillian
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DChemTech wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:05
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58


post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
Well, seems it isn't. It's what I guess many people expected though, and some try to argue that RB has a dominant car over Ferrari all season.

Well done by Ferrari, good job by Nyck too. I expected more from Alonso, but unfortunately he didn't get it together.
The Zandvoort discussion really is even more silly after today. :lol:

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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:06
dfegan358 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:02
jz11 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 16:58


post above yours explains - dominant car...

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.
You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.
Ferrari faster than RB in the race: Monaco, Spain, Bahrain, Australia, Austria maybe Canada

RB faster than Ferrari in the race: Imola, Miami, Spa, Zandvoort, Saudi

Ah yes RB have been faster at every single track :lol: