2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

[Tvetovnato]

The massive rear wing that RB is having in comparison to others will help them massively tomorrow in terms of deg. Max will be in the lead soon after the first stop if not before.

[matt_b]

So does Max start P4, P5, P6 or P7?

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So does Max start P4, P5, P6 or P7?

P4 I believe. Alongside Norris

[101FlyingDutchman]

The massive rear wing that RB is having in comparison to others will help them massively tomorrow in terms of deg. Max will be in the lead soon after the first stop if not before.

Maybe. Maybe not. The FER boys look amazingly confident wrt the race too. Maybe their deg wasn’t too bad. Clean track ahead will help controlling the deg too. Here is hoping for a really close fight! Shame SAI starts from the back. He was grooving today

[matt_b]

So does Max start P4, P5, P6 or P7?

P4 I believe. Alongside Norris

Ok thanks so Charles, George, Norris, Max, Daniel ...

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So does Max start P4, P5, P6 or P7?

P4 I believe. Alongside Norris

Ok thanks so Charles, George, Norris, Max, Daniel ...

Yes think that's correct

[Tvetovnato]

The massive rear wing that RB is having in comparison to others will help them massively tomorrow in terms of deg. Max will be in the lead soon after the first stop if not before.

Maybe. Maybe not. The FER boys look amazingly confident wrt the race too. Maybe their deg wasn’t too bad. Clean track ahead will help controlling the deg too. Here is hoping for a really close fight! Shame SAI starts from the back. He was grooving today

As much confidence as they may have, it will not weigh up for Ferrari’s ability to self destruct in the race in one way or another. But let’s hope it will be a close battle.

[101FlyingDutchman]

The massive rear wing that RB is having in comparison to others will help them massively tomorrow in terms of deg. Max will be in the lead soon after the first stop if not before.

Maybe. Maybe not. The FER boys look amazingly confident wrt the race too. Maybe their deg wasn’t too bad. Clean track ahead will help controlling the deg too. Here is hoping for a really close fight! Shame SAI starts from the back. He was grooving today

As much confidence as they may have, it will not weigh up for Ferrari’s ability to self destruct in the race in one way or another. But let’s hope it will be a close battle.

yes there is always the FER pit wall….. in front of the tifosi. Nooooooo pressure at all!

I’m genuinely hoping this becomes a titanic battle tomorrow

[Zynerji]

The massive rear wing that RB is having in comparison to others will help them massively tomorrow in terms of deg. Max will be in the lead soon after the first stop if not before.

Maybe. Maybe not. The FER boys look amazingly confident wrt the race too. Maybe their deg wasn’t too bad. Clean track ahead will help controlling the deg too. Here is hoping for a really close fight! Shame SAI starts from the back. He was grooving today

As much confidence as they may have, it will not weigh up for Ferrari’s ability to self destruct in the race in one way or another. But let’s hope it will be a close battle.

Isn't it Charles' turn to bin it in the Ferrari cock-up merry-go-round?

[Swed3121]

P4 I believe. Alongside Norris

Ok thanks so Charles, George, Norris, Max, Daniel ...

Yes think that's correct

As far as I’m aware he’ll be 5th behind Daniel as back of the grid pens( I.e Lewis) are applied first
I.e first Lewis gets shifted to the back leaving nor in 6 and Daniel in 7 putting then -5 for max means he gets 7th which turns into 5th with Sergio and sainz pens

[ferrarifire]

It is strange to see Ferrari is fast again in front of the home crowd...you can't recover half a second in one race ...this is my theory...Ferrari has been running their engine conservattly due to reliability issue and here they ve released the full beans...expect to go bk behind redbull again from next race..
PS: Ferrari reverted to new floor from 2nd practice onwards.

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.

Well, seems it isn't. It's what I guess many people expected though, and some try to argue that RB has a dominant car over Ferrari all season.

Well done by Ferrari, good job by Nyck too. I expected more from Alonso, but unfortunately he didn't get it together.

Yeah obviously I was being sarcastic. It’s really obvious Spa was an outlier. Presumably mostly because of the increased ride height required which just doesn’t bother the RB18 at all.
I’m glad FER have re-found their mojo here. Maybe returning back to the older floor has given them confidence back

[DChemTech]

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.

Well, seems it isn't. It's what I guess many people expected though, and some try to argue that RB has a dominant car over Ferrari all season.

Well done by Ferrari, good job by Nyck too. I expected more from Alonso, but unfortunately he didn't get it together.

Yeah obviously I was being sarcastic. It’s really obvious Spa was an outlier. Presumably mostly because of the increased ride height required which just doesn’t bother the RB18 at all.
I’m glad FER have re-found their mojo here. Maybe returning back to the older floor has given them confidence back

I know But I guess the question by dfegan was genuine.

[politburo]

How is it a dominant car this week? That’s what I don’t get. There is no evidence for that view up to now.

You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.

Ferrari faster than RB in the race: Monaco, Spain, Bahrain, Australia, Austria maybe Canada

RB faster than Ferrari in the race: Imola, Miami, Spa, Zandvoort, Saudi

Ah yes RB have been faster at every single track

Monaco who won?. Spain who won?. Canada who won?. Did I say RB are faster at every track either way?. Seems you are reading my mind and reading it wrongly for that fact. It is not by mistake that Verstappen had 4 consecutive wins, 1 before and 3 after the TD, and you'd be deluded to disregard the pace Verstappen showed in FP3 and FP2 (+5 tenths) on his long runs in his pursuit for the win tomorrow.

Meanwhile the only races affected by DNFs are France, Baku and Spain. Verstappen has still won 7 races and only one of those were close races. Get yourself back into reality sir/madam.

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You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.

Ferrari faster than RB in the race: Monaco, Spain, Bahrain, Australia, Austria maybe Canada

RB faster than Ferrari in the race: Imola, Miami, Spa, Zandvoort, Saudi

Ah yes RB have been faster at every single track

Monaco who won?. Spain who won?. Canada who won?. Did I say RB are faster at every track either way?. Seems you are reading my mind and reading it wrongly for that fact. It is not by mistake that Verstappen had 4 consecutive wins, 1 before and 3 after the TD, and you'd be deluded to disregard the pace Verstappen showed in FP3 and FP2 (+5 tenths) on his long runs in his pursuit for the win tomorrow.

Meanwhile the only races affected by DNFs are France, Baku and Spain. Verstappen has still won 7 races and only one of those were close races. Get yourself back into reality sir/madam.

Oh yes Perez was obviously the quickest in Monaco due to the car, oh wait what a joke of an argument

We're discussing race pace.. Feel free to watch Monaco again and see Checo absolutely destroy his tyres and have both Ferraris within 2s of him for the majority of the race

It's just a pointless argument. We're discussing the strengths of the car, and you bring up races where RB won because Ferrari strategically, procedurally were a joke. Ferrari's car has been quicker than the RB18 as many times as the RB18 has been the quicker car; Ferrari have simply managed to throw it away many times

[mendis]

You conflate being fast in qualifying with being fast in the race. You cannot deny that the RedBull is the fastest car in the races. Heck their average 2nd driver is 2nd in the championship and he is barely even with 15 seconds of his teammate at the end of races.

Ferrari faster than RB in the race: Monaco, Spain, Bahrain, Australia, Austria maybe Canada

RB faster than Ferrari in the race: Imola, Miami, Spa, Zandvoort, Saudi

Ah yes RB have been faster at every single track

Monaco who won?. Spain who won?. Canada who won?. Did I say RB are faster at every track either way?. Seems you are reading my mind and reading it wrongly for that fact. It is not by mistake that Verstappen had 4 consecutive wins, 1 before and 3 after the TD, and you'd be deluded to disregard the pace Verstappen showed in FP3 and FP2 (+5 tenths) on his long runs in his pursuit for the win tomorrow.

Meanwhile the only races affected by DNFs are France, Baku and Spain. Verstappen has still won 7 races and only one of those were close races. Get yourself back into reality sir/madam.

It's very stupid to ask those questions about who won, depsite knowing what happened in those races.