2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

[Shrieker]

Perplexed by Ferrari 'strategy'... Well done to Verstappen, very reminiscent of 2011 and 2013.

Ferrari just didn't have enough oomph today. Lec on fresh softs vs. Max on used meds in the last stint was very telling. Max easily had him covered. It took something like 10 laps for Lec to close a measly 1 second with Max... Whichever way they'd have gone with strategy, Max/Bull would've have them beat. And remember, this is with 10 seconds or so Ferrari made up on Max by pitting under the VSC. Max would've won by a country mile today.

[Just_a_fan]

For how long have you been watching F1? I somehow have the feeling that you’re pretty new to it.

I do have a feeling this was a response to Dutch fans being called unsportive for booing Hamilton, while it's clearly not just Dutch fans exhibiting such behavior.

Were they? or were they booing the way the race finished? (not making a decision, just giving an option)

I'd say it was a bit of both. The winner often gets booed if there's a Ferrari in second - it's happened to more than Max, that's for sure. But they were also booing during the SC period because they thought that they'd lost a chance to see Charles fight with Max for the win, which is true - they did lose that opportunity.

[Dr. Acula]

wE mAkE eVeRy EfFoRt tO eNsUrE tHAt tEH rAcEs eND uNdER gReEn fLaG cOnDiTiOnS

Well, nobody liked it last time around and got Masi fired for it. Why regret?

I'm specifically talking about what the FIA/FOM officials had said to cover for Masi after that farce. If that was true, we would've seen something done about it today. Which is further proof that they had their faces in the cake and were desperately throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the issue to cover for their ineptitude at best, malice at worst.

Look, people were pissed when last time the RD didn't follow the writen down SC procedure to the letter. So they changed that now, they follow it to the letter. That's what everybody wanted, wasn't it? So why are you now unhappy?

[Just_a_fan]

Shouldn't get rid of massi then. He'd throw a red flag immediately and we'd have 4-5 laps of racing.

Well, he didn't always do that, did he?

[Shrieker]

Well, nobody liked it last time around and got Masi fired for it. Why regret?

I'm specifically talking about what the FIA/FOM officials had said to cover for Masi after that farce. If that was true, we would've seen something done about it today. Which is further proof that they had their faces in the cake and were desperately throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the issue to cover for their ineptitude at best, malice at worst.

Look, people were pissed when last time the RD didn't follow the writen down SC procedure to the letter. So they changed that now, they follow it to the letter. That's what everybody wanted, wasn't it? So why are you now unhappy?

Because what they say, and what they do, are inconsistent ?

[Sofa King]

If there’s a safety car in the last quarter of a race they should just close the pits until the safety car ends. Simple

[DChemTech]

If there’s a safety car in the last quarter of a race they should just close the pits until the safety car ends. Simple

That sounds a bit tricky for those with damage, and cars that need to make a genuine pit stop still...

[Juzh]

Shouldn't get rid of massi then. He'd throw a red flag immediately and we'd have 4-5 laps of racing.

Well, he didn't always do that, did he?

nope

[Ascari67]

If there’s a safety car in the last quarter of a race they should just close the pits until the safety car ends. Simple

But then the RD will not have the chance to manipulate the result.

[grubschumi13]

Well, nobody liked it last time around and got Masi fired for it. Why regret?

I'm specifically talking about what the FIA/FOM officials had said to cover for Masi after that farce. If that was true, we would've seen something done about it today. Which is further proof that they had their faces in the cake and were desperately throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the issue to cover for their ineptitude at best, malice at worst.

Look, people were pissed when last time the RD didn't follow the writen down SC procedure to the letter. So they changed that now, they follow it to the letter. That's what everybody wanted, wasn't it? So why are you now unhappy?

They are unhappy because Max won it

[mendis]

If there’s a safety car in the last quarter of a race they should just close the pits until the safety car ends. Simple

Imgine if your favorite driver got a puncture in a collision and the other car got stranded on the track. What would you want?

[Big Tea]

If there’s a safety car in the last quarter of a race they should just close the pits until the safety car ends. Simple

But when you lose out this time, you gain next time. It is not bias, it is pot lick, just like a puncture.

[Dr. Acula]

I'm specifically talking about what the FIA/FOM officials had said to cover for Masi after that farce. If that was true, we would've seen something done about it today. Which is further proof that they had their faces in the cake and were desperately throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the issue to cover for their ineptitude at best, malice at worst.

Look, people were pissed when last time the RD didn't follow the writen down SC procedure to the letter. So they changed that now, they follow it to the letter. That's what everybody wanted, wasn't it? So why are you now unhappy?

Because what they say, and what they do, are inconsistent ?

They said something like "we "try" to let the race end under green, if the rules allow it" didn't they? The rules didn't allow it today, so what? What we saw today, is what happens if they have to follow the rules to the letter, like a lot of people demanded just a about 10 months ago. Well, ofcourse it would have been wise to think the whole thing over and imagined for once what this could potentially cause...but nobody did, they were to busy to scream at a scapegoat.

[organic]

P7->P1 another great race by max. Their lack of degradation won them the race

Better races by Sainz and Hamilton who came through the entire field to get 4th and 5th.

I don't see how they could be compared. Max was the 2nd fastest on track with 25 lap old softs still doing mid 25s. Looked after his tyres whilst setting very quick laps. He was fastest on track with used mediums compared to Leclerc's fresh softs.

Hamilton and Sainz were racing against cars that were 1-2s per lap slower and cut their way through. Max made the win look easy because he was past Russell by lap 4.

P18/p19->near podium is expected with a Ferrari/Merc at this stage. W13 had great pace on Sunday once again before you claim they didn't

But I imagine we'll have to agree to disagree

[Logie]

After an exciting start to the season its now become a borefest.

Max and RB clearly the fastest

Ferrari like to self harm

Merc praying for 2023

I dont mind that Max is dominating, its more that nothing is happening else where