2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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chrisc90
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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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maxxer wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:19
gandharva wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:12
So Marko just confirmed it was a miscalculation regarding fuel levels. LOL, he was doing 2 pole laps in Q3 and has to start P8. --- happens.
Again this rule it is so silly like a team suddenly has brought a barrel of very amazing fuel , just do the checks before Qualifing , parc ferme rules are there they cant change what they put in the car anyway
Not silly at all. Way to easy to sneak in some other fuel. Also, they'd start fueling to the absolute limit and you'd risk cars stopping on track while others are still completing their laps.

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Big Tea wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:16
If Max still does not meet the fuel rule, I assume all his q3 laps are removed, but will all his other q laps count?

Won't matter really, he will still win if he starts from the pits.
He won’t win here from P8, very hard to overtake.

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There is a chance he may lose the place at the start.

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gandharva wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:12
So Marko just confirmed it was a miscalculation regarding fuel levels. LOL, he was doing 2 pole laps in Q3 and has to start P8. --- happens.
Doesn't make sense that they told him to abort the previous lap, surely they were monitoring fuel consumption throughout to ensure they had enough, seems they only checked at the end, maybe they had an automatic alert from the car or something

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:30
There is a chance he may lose the place at the start.
You mean Lewis?

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mendis wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:34
selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:30
There is a chance he may lose the place at the start.
You mean Lewis?
Lewis could lose a place given the 2 summons he has for failing scrutineering and the teams incorrect filing on the driver.

I wonder what the breach in FP3 will have on him as technically the car/driver has failed scrutineering.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:24
This is about piercings innit.

I don't like tats and piercings or whatever, but this is getting pathetic imo. What next ? Race ban for saying "---" ?

edit: Look at the irony. Forum will censor writing sh!t :lol:
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chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:24
Would love to know what that's about. Presumably if it's just a paperwork mistake it'll be a fine for the team. $50k for a recent other team mistake I seem to remember.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:37
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:24
Would love to know what that's about. Presumably if it's just a paperwork mistake it'll be a fine for the team. $50k for a recent other team mistake I seem to remember.
I can only imagine its the piercing that Lewis wore for FP3. I know that earlier in the season, Monaco?, that Mercedes were late in filing their self scrutineering because Lewis had to take his nose stud out. So likely its related to that id believe. Itll be a breach of the relevant sporting regulation (initial summons) and guess it also invalidates the teams car/driver scrutineering so they will look at that 'offence' too.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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mendis wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:34
selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:30
There is a chance he may lose the place at the start.
You mean Lewis?
Max

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chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:41
Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:37
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:24
Would love to know what that's about. Presumably if it's just a paperwork mistake it'll be a fine for the team. $50k for a recent other team mistake I seem to remember.
I can only imagine its the piercing that Lewis wore for FP3. I know that earlier in the season, Monaco?, that Mercedes were late in filing their self scrutineering because Lewis had to take his nose stud out. So likely its related to that id believe. Itll be a breach of the relevant sporting regulation (initial summons) and guess it also invalidates the teams car/driver scrutineering so they will look at that 'offence' too.
If theypunish for that then they're going to look very silly. It could easily be blown in to accusations of discrimination against a single driver, especially following what happened over the last 12 months.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:43
chrisc90 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:41
Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:37


Would love to know what that's about. Presumably if it's just a paperwork mistake it'll be a fine for the team. $50k for a recent other team mistake I seem to remember.
I can only imagine its the piercing that Lewis wore for FP3. I know that earlier in the season, Monaco?, that Mercedes were late in filing their self scrutineering because Lewis had to take his nose stud out. So likely its related to that id believe. Itll be a breach of the relevant sporting regulation (initial summons) and guess it also invalidates the teams car/driver scrutineering so they will look at that 'offence' too.
If theypunish for that then they're going to look very silly. It could easily be blown in to accusations of discrimination against a single driver, especially following what happened over the last 12 months.
Would it be fair to punish? Would it be discrimination? Would the stance be the same if any other driver wore a nose stud during practice/race sessions?

I think it would be right to punish, its there in the rules black and white and its been made a huge fuss of earlier in the season. Rightfully or wrongly. (that rule has been there a long time in the sport - just not enforced)

Everyone in the paddock/teams/drivers know the rules so should take the punishment if they fall foul of it.

It was probably just a genuine oversight by Lewis and his team. We've seen he is willing to take it out to drive the car with. Shame really if it does go that way, but we have fans/teams calling out for fair application of the rules.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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I just looked at the telemetry and Max was still close to 5 tenths up on the penultimate lap at the point when he aborted. Whoever's decision it was to abort that lap has had a huge blunder.

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 16:52
Whoever's decision it was to abort that lap has had a huge blunder.
No, under the given circumstances it was the best decision, because otherwise he wouldn't start from p8 tomorrow.