2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

[PlatinumZealot]

At the end of the day the other drivers got the job done within their allotted laps.

[LM10]

There will be overtaking. This track always has overtaking, especially on offset tyre degradation.
And if it weren't for the driver and team errors redbull would be on pole by half a second. So the car is still dominant.
Max can do a long first stint on the mediums to get into clean air, and that should set him up nicely.
As for Ferrari, I am not predicting anything from those guys. I just wish them the best.

If there is rain.. the race should be exciting. When was the last time that a race had rain here?

What are you basing this assumption on? The FP sessions where RedBull didn’t look the fastest, let alone by 5 tenths? Or rather the majority of the qualifying sessions this season where it was an F1-75 in the hands of Charles on pole? I’m really curious

This forum would be a better place without having to read such nonsense created out of thin air.

[holeindalip]

There will be overtaking. This track always has overtaking, especially on offset tyre degradation.
And if it weren't for the driver and team errors redbull would be on pole by half a second. So the car is still dominant.
Max can do a long first stint on the mediums to get into clean air, and that should set him up nicely.
As for Ferrari, I am not predicting anything from those guys. I just wish them the best.

If there is rain.. the race should be exciting. When was the last time that a race had rain here?

What are you basing this assumption on? The FP sessions where RedBull didn’t look the fastest, let alone by 5 tenths? Or rather the majority of the qualifying sessions this season where it was an F1-75 in the hands of Charles on pole? I’m really curious

This forum would be a better place without having to read such nonsense created out of thin air.

Pretty common on these forums nowadays….

[PlatinumZealot]

Max was up by 9 tenths. Perez was fighting for pole with a barrel of mistakes... Naturally it was a RedBull poles if things were normal.

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in those conditions, for sure. But it doesn't mean anything at all for normal dry pace, let alone for the race, so pointless to discuss anyway.

[Juzh]

Yeah he was up on a lap leclerc did way earlier in the session. Leclerc backed out of his final lap. And Max’s s3 wasnt looking tidy at all. It was mostly the track evolution that made it look like he was that much faster.

Will be interesting tomorrow to see whos got the pace. Doubt max is going to win. Everything so far this weekend points to a bad and controversial weekend for redbull. I expect that to continue tomorrow.

He was up 2 to 5 tenths after s2 on both his aborted laps on everyone else who was running at that same time. He was fastest and didn't make any major mistakes in those laps unlike others. I don't care if you call it a monster lap or not. The independent fan will see he again would have come out on top in a car that did not seem the fastest this weekend.

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He made a mistake on the penultimate and backed off. He is telling the media that he was told to back off but that is false. He chose to back off knowing he had one more lap and the current lap would not have beat pole. But that wasnt the right decision. He should have kept going and would have ended up closer to the front row.

Heres the radio transcript excerpt with the chain of events:


“Lambiase Verstappen begins his penultimate lap
Okay. Let’s go.
Lambiase Verstappen makes a mistake at turn 16 and backs off. Lambiase spots it and tells him to prepare for his final effort
Okay, Max, we’ve got 15 seconds margin. We can increase the gap to Gasly. Increase gap to Gasly. Recharge on, mode one. Recharge on, mode one. I’ll let you know where to go.“

F1TV radio messages are delayed by 3-5s. Verstappen aborted after he was told so by Lambiase, even though it looks like it was the other way around. It's been like that since f1tv came out and has always caused so much confusion with people who don't understand that.

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He made a mistake on the penultimate and backed off. He is telling the media that he was told to back off but that is false. He chose to back off knowing he had one more lap and the current lap would not have beat pole. But that wasnt the right decision. He should have kept going and would have ended up closer to the front row.

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That isn't correct.

The Austrian advisor explained the aborted lap just before Verstappen's second attempt. At ORF, Marko says:
"We drove two purple sector times there, but we came very close to Pierre Gasly. That is why we decided to sacrifice the lap.
With the confusion that arose, we wanted to record another lap, but we overlooked the fact that we only had fuel for five laps."

That is a bit strange. After two purple sectors, how much battery could he have left? And tire life?
Compromising a superb lap (with Gasly in the end) for a definitively compromised lap sounds ilogical.

Quite a few people were doing consecutive laps in Q3, they just used a somewhat toned down deployment setting to manage 2 laps. Relatively low grip means less full throttle, means less deployment needed. Singapore is also quite easy to recharge energy with a lot of braking zones.

[hollus]

Radio transcript of Max in the crucial laps. They cut the margins too thin:
https://www.racefans.net/2022/10/01/we- ... ent-wrong/

But clearly, they meant to do two laps in a row, what a strange track. I guess the battery can recharge during the lap... sort of enough and the tires drop somewhat little... and in those conditions, track evolution was king.

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Max was up by 9 tenths. Perez was fighting for pole with a barrel of mistakes... Naturally it was a RedBull poles if things were normal.

Every driver was making plenty of mistakes. Charles' best lap was littered with them, and he didn't even get a final lap improvement due to an error. So I think we can't talk about Perez's mistakes without mentioning Charles.

Secondly max was up by 6 tenths but how many times have we seen max be good in these conditions compared to drivers like Perez, Charles, Sainz.. these are not wet weather/ low grip specialists

6 tenths to leclerc (who didn't get a final lap in with massively ramping conditions) and Perez seems about where I'd expect it to be given the circumstances, even without ant real RB advantage

Let's see what RB pace looks like in the dry but I highly doubt it will be anything like a 6 tenth advantage.

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indeed. And Red Bull also looked superiour on a green track early on in FP1. Once it rubbered in, the others took over.

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any idea what the prefered strategy will look like today? The hard tyre looked super slow, so I guess S-M, if possible?

[chrisc90]

any idea what the prefered strategy will look like today? The hard tyre looked super slow, so I guess S-M, if possible?

Nothing from Pirelli on Twitter yet.

I think the safety car will be critical to how todays race is going to play out. I think you will have a few drivers starting on the mediums in order to hope for a VSC/safety car close to the 1st pit window and try and get track position that way.

It might be better off going long on your first stint to cover the above.

I think it was GR who said it was expected to be a 2 stopper yesterday in post race interviews. I think Med-Med-soft, with maybe some of front runners, Perez/Ham starting on the soft. Perez could be key to Max getting up the field today if he can hold back some of the cars behind by remaining in P2. Of course If Perez has the pace then Id expect RB to unleash him.

Its still a bit of a mixed up grid really, with only really Ferrari being split by the Merc and RB. Whether theres enough scope there to try use 2 cars against 1 is another thing. But who do Ferrari chose to cover off. RB who are way ahead in the constructers, or Mercedes who are chasing them down. It really is 1 car near enough in the top 9 for all the teams, so strategy will be crucial I think

[djones]

As much as I’d like to see somebody else win for a change, my prediction would be a Max win. That Redbull is so fast he will probably be in the top 5 after two laps alone.

Ferrari will mess something up or break as usual. I don’t think Hamilton can match Perez so likely a Redbull 1-2.

[chrisc90]

As much as I’d like to see somebody else win for a change, my prediction would be a Max win. That Redbull is so fast he will probably be in the top 5 after two laps alone.

Ferrari will mess something up or break as usual. I don’t think Hamilton can match Perez so likely a Redbull 1-2.

Lets not forget Perez knows how to defend a corner too. The Minister of Defence

[chrisc90]

[Spoutnik]

The hard is so slow
Can't see it being used ?