2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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RZS10
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So Perez is confirmed for a 10 car length investigation

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... cident.pdf
Alleged breach of Article 55.10 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations, not keeping within 10 car lengths of the Safety Car.
How is that not a black/white issue - he either was or wasn't and whatever the driver has to say should play no role - why delay it to post race?

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CHT wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:38
Why was Lewis complaining about starting with intermediate? and then again about switching to medium soft tyres?

On both count, I would say that team was right because Merc simply doesn't have the outright pace to control the race
He wanted to start of scuffed inters rather than new ones, and it seemed that he thinks that the dofts would have been better than the mediums. Hard to fully tell, but he possibly have been correct on both calls.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:40
What did you guys think of the race though? The element of stratgey wasnt really there for me. The big cars really couldn't make use of their easier following because they just brake too long. Notice that we only saw straight line overtakes. All of the braking overtakes ended in tears.
I think it was more dirt-track level of grip today. It would be interesting to see F1 cars on a bespoke clay track. Maybe build it in Spain? Call it El Terracotta!😅

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the poster below wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:24
Well done by Perez, always a popular winner.

Someone on the sky coverage (well, in the background of it) said "ten for Perez"... But I don't know if that was them speculating or what.

Bad day for Merc, probably difficult to achieve second in the constructors now, but it was always going to be a long shot.

Kinda sad for Alonso in what is likely his last milestone race - although 400 would be fun 😃
If he completes AM contract he'll have more than 400 races.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:40
What did you guys think of the race though? The element of stratgey wasnt really there for me. The big cars really couldn't make use of their easier following because they just brake too long. Notice that we only saw straight line overtakes. All of the braking overtakes ended in tears.
Unless it was my tv coverage, aside from Verstappen I barely saw any pure overtakes.

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RZS10 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:41
So Perez is confirmed for a 10 car length investigation

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... cident.pdf
Alleged breach of Article 55.10 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations, not keeping within 10 car lengths of the Safety Car.
How is that not a black/white issue - he either was or wasn't and whatever the driver has to say should play no role - why delay it to post race?
They want to hear from the driver. It’s that simple. Not exactly the way a race should finish. Give him 5s penalty and let’s move on from the farce

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deadhead wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:36
grubschumi13 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:27
2 big mistakes from Hamilton there today.
Yeah he is just out of practice. Driving dominant cars at the front for years would do that to any driver so can't blame him.
1 big mistake and 1 small one, both while trying to overtake off line on the wet. Nothing to do with being out of practice especially when you consider his double overtakes this year. Just a bit impatient this race.

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Safety car line is the one at the start of the pits. The one screenshotted is the start of the pitlane.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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All the fuss about the distance to the SC: it should really be penalised. It is a written rule.

But.. I see drivers not maintaining a 10 car difference to the car in front all the time and it never gets penalised really. So the precedent is already there not to penalise Perez. FIA can change it for next season. Not start enforcing rules now all of a sudden.

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:43
They want to hear from the driver. It’s that simple.
Yes i understand that but why? The limit is a certain distance - did he exceed it? yes/no. easy ... doesn't matter whether he thinks he exceeded it or not or why he did it should he have done it.

Unless the FIA wants to have a long discussion with Red Bull about the definition of a car length and how "10 car lengths" should be interpreted.

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Poor race all around. Mistakes from everyone apart from frobt runners who did not have to go off line to overtake.
I figured overtaking would be easier than normal and it could have been with these cars... but with the damp track once you go off line its impossible to stop the car.
Hamilton had one major error behind sainz. Of course born from frustration. But i guess the car was just too slow to improve position.
Behind Vettel i think it was worth a try but again offline has zero grip. The car is just not fast enough to pass.
Redbull on the other hand had really good straightline speed that allowed Max to overtake quite easily in the early parts when the grip was consistent all over the track. When the dry line started to appear it gave the slower cars who he could overtake some defense in the braking zone.
His error was similar to everyone elses.. frustration and no grip offline.

Good job by checo and good effort by Leclerc. The ferrari seemed Okay it just was not fast enough to challenge. Even with drs it could not even come beside Perez.
Then Perez showed the true pace when his engineer said "let's disappear". Perez turned on the rocket boosters and vanished.
Sainz was worse driver of the day next to Latifi. Would be good to hear if he had a problem in the car because he was slow as mollases. He destroyed any chance of mercedes using strategy to move up the grid.
But overally a not so good race. The street tracks dont race so well when damp.
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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:43
RZS10 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:41
So Perez is confirmed for a 10 car length investigation

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... cident.pdf
Alleged breach of Article 55.10 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations, not keeping within 10 car lengths of the Safety Car.
How is that not a black/white issue - he either was or wasn't and whatever the driver has to say should play no role - why delay it to post race?
They want to hear from the driver. It’s that simple. Not exactly the way a race should finish. Give him 5s penalty and let’s move on from the farce
I am sure it will be 5sec penalty anything more will ridicule F1 and the winner of the race.

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RZS10 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:46
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:43
They want to hear from the driver. It’s that simple.
Yes i understand that but why? The limit is a certain distance - did he exceed it? yes/no. easy ... doesn't matter whether he thinks he exceeded it or not or why he did it should he have done it.

Unless the FIA wants to have a long discussion with Red Bull about the definition of a car length and how "10 car lengths" should be interpreted.
That's the rub of it. The drivers don't have a HUD telling them the *actual* distance they are being held accountable to.

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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.