2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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ringo
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Re: 2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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Perez rule breach was very immaterial but i am sure ferrari will pressure for 10s penalty.
Even if he stayed back, Charles would not pass him anyway and i think FIA should look at that.
It would have made no difference.
But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
For Sure!!

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ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50

But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
So we should see Lewis DSQ for failing scrutineering then?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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deadhead wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:38
214270 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:23
SAI with a really poor effort today; extremely slow.
He is usually rather average but you are right, today was extra painful.
This one was especially poor, he was made to look completely amateur. Forced HAM into a mistake of pure frustration because of how slow he was driving & even NOR could’ve had him tyre-for-tyre on the M, until he settled for the points.
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ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50
Perez rule breach was very immaterial but i am sure ferrari will pressure for 10s penalty.
Even if he stayed back, Charles would not pass him anyway and i think FIA should look at that.
It would have made no difference.
But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
SC breaches are nothing to do with track advantage, it's pure safety, everything has to follow the rules in order to be safe abd under control.

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mzivtins wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:52
ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50
Perez rule breach was very immaterial but i am sure ferrari will pressure for 10s penalty.
Even if he stayed back, Charles would not pass him anyway and i think FIA should look at that.
It would have made no difference.
But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
SC breaches are nothing to do with track advantage, it's pure safety, everything has to follow the rules in order to be safe abd under control.
I think RBR's argument is that the SC was slowing down too much. Is there anyway we could track the SC speed when the incident happened?

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Taking nothing from Checo, he did his job well, but I think who ever was in front was always going to stay in front as long as they stayed on the road (no mean feat in its self though).
One of the most boring races I remember.
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CHT wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:54
mzivtins wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:52
ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50
Perez rule breach was very immaterial but i am sure ferrari will pressure for 10s penalty.
Even if he stayed back, Charles would not pass him anyway and i think FIA should look at that.
It would have made no difference.
But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
SC breaches are nothing to do with track advantage, it's pure safety, everything has to follow the rules in order to be safe abd under control.
I think RBR's argument is that the SC was slowing down too much. Is there anyway we could track the SC speed when the incident happened?
I agree with this too actually, from Perez pushing the sc, having slicks drop in temp for no reason is introducing massive risk. The sc needs to take ownerships of all aspects of safety, otherwise an sc breeds more sc's

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chrisc90
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You could probably look at lap time under the SC and divide that by the track length to get the average speed.

Beats me why they dont use something a bit faster.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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This track was always poor.
But these heavy car...

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214270 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:52
deadhead wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:38
214270 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:23
SAI with a really poor effort today; extremely slow.
He is usually rather average but you are right, today was extra painful.
This one was especially poor, he was made to look completely amateur. Forced HAM into a mistake of pure frustration because of how slow he was driving & even NOR could’ve had him tyre-for-tyre on the M, until he settled for the points.
If you can force a 7 time WC in to an error like that I wouldn't call it poor driving:)

And how the hell is it possible Hamilton never suffers any major damage?

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chrisc90 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:58
You could probably look at lap time under the SC and divide that by the track length to get the average speed.

Beats me why they dont use something a bit faster.
Lack of competition for SC I guess. Perhaps when Audi or Porsche joins in 2026, we may see something quicker.

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Big Tea wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:55
Taking nothing from Checo, he did his job well, but I think who ever was in front was always going to stay in front as long as they stayed on the road (no mean feat in its self though).
One of the most boring races I remember.
With time, this will be 2/3 of a 25 race schedule. Oof.

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chrisc90 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:51
ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50

But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
So we should see Lewis DSQ for failing scrutineering then?
LOL, didn't the team pay for Ham's breach of the rules? So by his logic, Red Bull should pay the fine for Checo's offense.

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Aesop wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 18:03
214270 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:52
deadhead wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:38


He is usually rather average but you are right, today was extra painful.
This one was especially poor, he was made to look completely amateur. Forced HAM into a mistake of pure frustration because of how slow he was driving & even NOR could’ve had him tyre-for-tyre on the M, until he settled for the points.
If you can force a 7 time WC in to an error like that I wouldn't call it poor driving:)

And how the hell is it possible Hamilton never suffers any major damage?
Hamilton is a specialist at bringing the car home. He keeps his hand on the wheel at slow speed when hitting the wall and he hit the wall straight if he can. Do not park into the gravel by hitting the clutch.
It happened multiple time
Germany 2019 : Hulk and Leclerc DNF with the same mistakes but not him
Imola 2021

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chrisc90
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ispano6 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 18:07
chrisc90 wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:51
ringo wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 17:50

But just like the rules are the rules when it come to Jewelry.. they should be applied black and white with the races. Promotion of Leclerc to p1?
So we should see Lewis DSQ for failing scrutineering then?
LOL, didn't the team pay for Ham's breach of the rules? So by his logic, Red Bull should pay the fine for Checo's offense.
Difference is Checo didnt fail scrutineering. The standards required to be legal to compete, in both the driver and car.

If your car wasnt within the parameters for scrutineering, it wouldnt be allowed to race. Why is the driver different to that?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.