Alpine A522

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Blackout wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 11:31
It looks like the old floor to me
Pat Fry says it looks the same from the outside and it’s all underneath :twisted:

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Blackout wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 11:31
It looks like the old floor to me
Andreas Haupt has done this before where he calls something new on the car because he expects this part to be new without confirmation that the part fitted actually is new from the factory. Given that you've not seen it to be new, I expect this is still the old floor fitted to the car

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More Alpine floor detail from today. This is old also. So: they haven't bolted on the new floor yet

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organic wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 13:59
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More Alpine floor detail from today. This is old also. So: they haven't bolted on the new floor yet
The passage way(hole) looks new on the right. .
On the left, it's hard to tell from that angle. Looks like it could be a manufactured part vs a reworked part with a heat gun that we got at SPA.

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nice close up.
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And blackout's

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The changes are probably more rearwards. There is some microscopic ones around the cuts.
'Tire shredder' (red →) has a metallic edge, from edge 2 edge now. & the skirt has a small one too (blue).
New tire cutter is flat/parallel to the ground too, whereas the old one curled upwards.
Estimated gains: 58008 s/lap.
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small subtle changes, but lighter maybe?

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zoroastar wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 19:07
small subtle changes, but lighter maybe?

We don't see the "under floor ridge" changes that are probably the BIG Magic.

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I agree that there must be changes under the floor and the team have such confidence in correlation that they prepared the floor for both cars rather than Mclaren who only brought a package for Norris.
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AR3-GP wrote:
02 Oct 2022, 03:35
I agree that there must be changes under the floor and the team have such confidence in correlation that they prepared the floor for both cars rather than Mclaren who only brought a package for Norris.
And Matt Harman said (my link from the other day) that they're using the Wind tunnel just for the 2023 car. So these updates are coming just using CFD.

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Yes there must be big changes inside... and I wonder what is that ridge*...
Those official description are often vague and incomplete, with (intentional?) mistakes sometimes...

Talking of ridges, these arent new (pink). They are the ones that appeared during the summer
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Speaking of ridges, are these forward-facing steps beneficial, or are they just a compromise & the byproduct of the narrowing of the front part of the 'boat' + the need to comply with the legality boxes etc?
Some say they accomplish an aero task but what is it?

Maybe that's the 'ridge'', Alpine 'added' in Singapore...
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Here they are

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A nice never-seen-before internal ski-jump ramp-shaped deflector that seems to divert the radiator hot air upwards and to funnel it towards the rear hot air exit.
(Pic is not new and is from around the Austrian GP)

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