2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

[maxxer]

Lando went round a corner and had to take evasive action away from the red bull. Its clearly Max fault. Not deliberate but still dangerous.

Next to this there was also an unsafe release , and again FIA has to investigate it for the rest of the day.

[kediown]

It should be obvious I mean the erratic steering to the left in combination with wheel spin, having to countersteer right after that. We know this would have not happened, if he had not seen Norris approaching. Max simply wanted to hold him up or show his anger on him because he was about to break the gentleman's agreement.

100% avoidable situation and 100% on Max.

I'm sorry but this is genuinely just so false.. Max was doing exactly what he always does on his prep laps on that run but slightly overcooks it. Feel like you're looking for anything to justify something you want to be true

I would have believed him and also you, if he did not look into his left mirror before, ackowledging that Norris was coming and if he did not steer to the left while accelerating to the point his wheels spun.

There's nothing to discuss, really. These drivers are good enough and know their cars good enough to not do what just happened. Especially Max.

There's 130R and a McLaren appearing in very fast way. I doubt he saw Norris in his mirrors as Norris was going fast there, and even if Max did, Max would cognition Norris' speed and wouldn't try to "block" his car over Norris as Max would've known it's stupid to potentially damage your car in a big way instead of starting on at worst P4.

It wasn't intentional from Max, but neither Norris and Max are the innocent there. Both would have reprimands imo

[maxxer]

I'm sorry but this is genuinely just so false.. Max was doing exactly what he always does on his prep laps on that run but slightly overcooks it. Feel like you're looking for anything to justify something you want to be true

I would have believed him and also you, if he did not look into his left mirror before, ackowledging that Norris was coming and if he did not steer to the left while accelerating to the point his wheels spun.

There's nothing to discuss, really. These drivers are good enough and know their cars good enough to not do what just happened. Especially Max.

There's 130R and a McLaren appearing in very fast way. I doubt he saw Norris in his mirrors as Norris was going fast there, and even if Max did, Max would cognition Norris' speed and wouldn't try to "block" his car over Norris as Max would've known it's stupid to potentially damage your car in a big way instead of starting on at worst P4.

It wasn't intentional from Max, but neither Norris and Max are the innocent there. Both would have reprimands imo

There are people on the pitwall for that to warn him also to stay out of the way instead of thinking the whole track is just for him to play

[atanatizante]

Both Merc drivers were some 10kph slower in S2 (the sector in which we could see how they set up the cars for the race) than RB drivers and some 8kph slower than both Ferrari and Alpine ones ...

Then, after the qualy session, HAM spoke to Bono on the radio feed asking if his time was down to top speed ... the latter confirmed and in addition, said that tomorrow they`ll be stronger in the slow-speed corners ...

So, bearing in mind that on Accuweather it`s a 65% chance of rain tomorrow at the start of the race, I think they were setting the cars more towards a wet race or maybe for an M-H tyre 2-stop dry race knowing the car tends to be kinder to the tyres.

In contrast, the RB, Ferrari and Alpine cars I think they were set up for a 3-stop dry race strategy knowing the abrasive tarmac characteristics here at Suzuka... will see tomorrow had my predictions are wrong or not ...

It's a very optimistic way of thinking. Despite knowing there is a good chance of rain, no team would set up the car for dry. Everyone would go a compromise, some go more wet than others. Mercedes was 10+ kph down from the first lap of FP1 to Red Bull. I don't think it has so much to do with setups. Considering Mercedes has trouble in bringing temperature to tyres, they might have gone a bit aggressive on tyres to help tomorrow as they would struggle more than others. Most likely, Red Bull has done same as they were overheating the tyres and had to go extremely slow on the outlaps.

They said that now are on top of these issues and the proofs are both qualy session from Singapore and FP2 times from here ...

[kediown]

I would have believed him and also you, if he did not look into his left mirror before, ackowledging that Norris was coming and if he did not steer to the left while accelerating to the point his wheels spun.

There's nothing to discuss, really. These drivers are good enough and know their cars good enough to not do what just happened. Especially Max.

There's 130R and a McLaren appearing in very fast way. I doubt he saw Norris in his mirrors as Norris was going fast there, and even if Max did, Max would cognition Norris' speed and wouldn't try to "block" his car over Norris as Max would've known it's stupid to potentially damage your car in a big way instead of starting on at worst P4.

It wasn't intentional from Max, but neither Norris and Max are the innocent there. Both would have reprimands imo

There are people on the pitwall for that to warn him also to stay out of the way instead of thinking the whole track is just for him to play

Well, Max and Norris had a fair gap between them before 130R, from Norris' onboard it can be seen Max is warming his tires, as soon as Max passes 130R Norris starts to accelerate as if he's on a hotlap, then Max has an oversteer. I'm not sure Pitwall broadcast is fast enough for them to warn drivers for instant moments.

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[kediown]

[maxxer]

I so would have not expected this explanation by Max.

Seems like he forgot how to accelerate when it makes him drift across the track, even needing him to countersteer.

You know you have turned into a complete troll now. Seriously.

It's always funny to see people call others trolls because they're unable to confront them.

Anything you've to add other than that? If not, have a nice day.

All kneel for max weekend again he is perfect he never does anything wrong

[Ben1980]

Probably fair, though 3 place also could also be fair. At least its noted the Max at fault and no blame on Lando. Just a shame it wrecked his one set of new softs

[RZS10]

You either light up your tyres to get heat in or you lose control, if you "lose control" as a result of your conscious act it does not make it any better. [snip]

[Zhouvinazzi]

He sees Norris approaching and steps on the pedal making the tyres spin and at the same time steering left - unintentionally or intentionally is anyone‘s guess.

New to the board <personal stuff removed> Genuinely thought this was a technical forum and registered to get away from the blind fandom common on other platforms

[falonso81]

So, what exactly does a reprimand accomplish? Is it a penalty or not?

[organic]

No, please, show me the instance Hamilton impeded someone in Abu Dhabi and stop moving goalposts.

My guess is this:

just for clarity's sake

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RedBull using their high speed turn advantage here.

RB loses time to Ferrari in most of the high speed corners across the lap

[johnny comelately]

From the onboards, the Honda seemed to have such a lot of midrange and that just kept going.