2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

[CaribouBread]

Interesting to see how the Ferrari performs pretty well in fast corners even with a backed off wing (compared to the competition)

[bluechris]

Interesting to see how the Ferrari performs pretty well in fast corners even with a backed off wing (compared to the competition)

The new floor must made a difference but came too late in the season.

[Neuron]

looks very likely to be wet now anyway. But yeah, more downforce would normally help in those conditions as well

https://i.imgur.com/IdkvDQZ.png
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-tab ... %20Circuit

Dude, it's 2022. In such conditions everything we would expect is a lot of crying from 95% of drivers that it is too wet + a lot of red flags, a lot of postopned start and finally legendary SPA case.

[Artur Craft]

some laps

Huge thanks for those!

These 2022 cars have performed relatively well on this track, eventhough it might not seem so as they were slower than even the 2006 cars which had 750HP, narrow grooved tyres, no DRS and relatively moderate downforce levels.

If you look into the video below, they are cornering quite faster than this

Hamilton 2017 pole, faster than 2018 pole and only 0.3s slower than Vettel´s record pole from 2019

The fastest speed I have seen on the Esses(only looking into the first 3 corners, left, right, left) and Spoon 1 was Alonso´s 2009 Q2 where his speedometer was kept above 230km/h. On 2017, Hamilton was doing only 217km/h on these. This year the fastest was 223km/h on the Esses and Leclerc ~230km/h on Spoon 1.

On Degner 1 I don´t remember Alonso´s speed but Leclerc at 268km/h might be the fastest ever. On 2017, Hamilton was doing only 239 kmh despite lapping 2s faster Even this year he´s considerably faster (by 10km/h)

BTW, obviously Renault was not even close to being the fastest car in 2009, Vettel´s RB was. But there was no speedometer on Vettel´s 2009 pole. It´s also a shame that there were no speedometer on the 2006 cars either as they did monster lap times(1.28.9) considering the amount of disadvantages they had

[search]

looks very likely to be wet now anyway. But yeah, more downforce would normally help in those conditions as well

https://i.imgur.com/IdkvDQZ.png
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-tab ... %20Circuit

Dude, it's 2022. In such conditions everything we would expect is a lot of crying from 95% of drivers that it is too wet + a lot of red flags, a lot of postopned start and finally legendary SPA case.

yeah, and that forecast (others differ, tbf) looks even worse now. Don't think there would be any running indeed if this one turns true.

edit: as a little reminder: rules were changed after Spa btw. It needs two laps of (V)SC-free running now for any points to be awarded.

[mendis]

As usual, theres always plenty of incidents to go back on from the archives.

This is a carbon copy of what happened with Max/Lando today:
(Click to watch in Youtube)


Reprimand the right outcome, id half expect Norris got a bit of a speaking to in the stewards room aswell.

Champions' stuff.

[Gillian]

some laps

Huge thanks for those!

These 2022 cars have performed relatively well on this track, eventhough it might not seem so as they were slower than even the 2006 cars which had 750HP, narrow grooved tyres, no DRS and relatively moderate downforce levels.

If you look into the video below, they are cornering quite faster than this

Hamilton 2017 pole, faster than 2018 pole and only 0.3s slower than Vettel´s record pole from 2019

The fastest speed I have seen on the Esses(only looking into the first 3 corners, left, right, left) and Spoon 1 was Alonso´s 2009 Q2 where his speedometer was kept above 230km/h....

Really!? I remember Ferrari made good gains in 2009 when they changed the diffuser but that's a lot faster than I remember, wow

[Mogster]

looks very likely to be wet now anyway. But yeah, more downforce would normally help in those conditions as well

https://i.imgur.com/IdkvDQZ.png
https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-tab ... %20Circuit

Dude, it's 2022. In such conditions everything we would expect is a lot of crying from 95% of drivers that it is too wet + a lot of red flags, a lot of postopned start and finally legendary SPA case.

Forecast seems to get worse by the hour. I wouldn’t bet on any racing laps tomorrow.

[Wouter]

Wow! Vettel says goodbye to the Japanese people and thanking them for all the wonderful years.

“Thank you for the wonderful years, you guys are the best. I’m sad that I have to leave you all”

[Juzh]

some laps

Huge thanks for those!

These 2022 cars have performed relatively well on this track, eventhough it might not seem so as they were slower than even the 2006 cars which had 750HP, narrow grooved tyres, no DRS and relatively moderate downforce levels.

If you look into the video below, they are cornering quite faster than this

Hamilton 2017 pole, faster than 2018 pole and only 0.3s slower than Vettel´s record pole from 2019

The fastest speed I have seen on the Esses(only looking into the first 3 corners, left, right, left) and Spoon 1 was Alonso´s 2009 Q2 where his speedometer was kept above 230km/h. On 2017, Hamilton was doing only 217km/h on these. This year the fastest was 223km/h on the Esses and Leclerc ~230km/h on Spoon 1.

Vettel in 2019 was at 253, 232 and 232 kmh trough those Esses. 231 troguh spoon 1.

2018 was damp, remember. can't be compared. And as you can see that 2017 mercedes is just a missile on straights, that's where it gains loads and loads of time.

[bluechris]

In accuweather it shows rain at 4pm so maybe it will be dry at least at the start.

[chrisc90]

Which team bosses aren't at Suzuka this weekend? Just been watching start of Sky's Ted's Notebook and said getting into Japan is still quite tightly controlled in terms of vaccinations and visas. Im sure I heard some rumours some bosses were not going due to the 'budget cap'. Which as a excuse seems very odd, considering they all use private planes to get around,

[search]

Which team bosses aren't at Suzuka this weekend? Just been watching start of Sky's Ted's Notebook and said getting into Japan is still quite tightly controlled in terms of vaccinations and visas. Im sure I heard some rumours some bosses were not going due to the 'budget cap'. Which as a excuse seems very odd, considering they all use private planes to get around,

those rules are still intact for every F1 race, I think, so I doubt it's the reason. Or has Rosberg ever returned?

[Artur Craft]

Vettel in 2019 was at 253, 232 and 232 kmh trough those Esses. 231 troguh spoon 1.

2018 was damp, remember. can't be compared. And as you can see that 2017 mercedes is just a missile on straights, that's where it gains loads and loads of time.

Yeah, just saw Vettel´s speed on the official channel video where they compared pole and P2 of 2019. Incredibly, though, is that Leclerc is almost 10km/h faster on Degner 1 than the 2019 ones. At very high speeds, the current aero works greatly and that despite the extra weight.

Nonetheless, it´s quite incredible that 2022 cars are faster in every single corner than the 2017 pole despite being 2s slower

Really!? I remember Ferrari made good gains in 2009 when they changed the diffuser but that's a lot faster than I remember, wow

I searched this on youtube but it´s not there. I have that lap on some old dvd-r but I would need to look up for it and I don´t have that time now. If you find the QLF world feed broadcast, you´ll see that lap. I think the speed dropped bellow 230kmh on the right-hander Esse but then Alonso took the next left-hander flatout over 230. On Spoon 1 I remember his speed always being above 230.

It seems odd given FIA massively reduced downforce on that year but the DDD gave a lot back and Bridgestone slick (first year with them since 97)tyres worked great for that 620kg car.

[Just_a_fan]

Which team bosses aren't at Suzuka this weekend? Just been watching start of Sky's Ted's Notebook and said getting into Japan is still quite tightly controlled in terms of vaccinations and visas. Im sure I heard some rumours some bosses were not going due to the 'budget cap'. Which as a excuse seems very odd, considering they all use private planes to get around,

Perhaps some bosses are keen to stick within the budget cap limits...