2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

[dxpetrov]

Races in countries with high probability or rain should be moved to more favourable weather season or just cancelled! This is fkn ridiculous!

Or just use the wet tyres and race?

Not really. I want to see a race, not frkn crash fest.

[ispano6]

Races in countries with high probability or rain should be moved to more favourable weather season or just cancelled! This is fkn ridiculous!

Since Liberty took over, they wanted to shift Japanese GP earlier in the year, but organisers don't want that

Yeah that's a shame, maybe PM Kishida who is in attendance will do something about it.

[Gillian]

What a silly discussion! A tractor on track while cars are running is insane! Doesn't matter what colour flag is out. You don't don't put a tractor on track when there's still race cars going round FFS!

[Andi76]

Beat Zehnder said the race will not get restarted. It will continue raining and the cars cannot race under these conditions. Sainz says drivers cannot see anything(the same that drivers said 30 years ago, but they raced...). Its a shame. Sorry if i say that, but i miss Bernie. He would have said - you race! I am getting annoyed by this bs. Stop telling people that the cars are not able to drive under these conditions! They are not more not less able to as they were 25 years ago! You just do not want them to race and the drivers also do not want to! Thats it nothing else. 25 years ago in Barcelona 96 more cars crashed at the start. Or Monaco 97 - only 6 or 7 cars finished. But they raced! Just tell the truth - you do not want to take any risk and security is king(FIA) and the drivers are frightened to drive under conditions like that.

[chrisc90]

Races in countries with high probability or rain should be moved to more favourable weather season or just cancelled! This is fkn ridiculous!

Or just use the wet tyres and race?

Not really. I want to see a race, not frkn crash fest.

You want to see a race, but say no to the most extreme setup that would enable to go racing. Logical

[chrisc90]

What a silly discussion! A tractor on track while cars are running is insane! Doesn't matter what colour flag is out. You don't don't put a tractor on track when there's still race cars going round FFS!

Wasn’t there one at monza when Danny ric stopped on track and car couldn’t be moved?

[Mansell89]

A tractor should not be deployed until every car is safely in the pit lane. It isn’t rocket science and FIA need to appreciate that.

[dxpetrov]

No setup would allow them to race under treacherous conditions for full distance, who are you kidding. And honestly, not interested to see them race in wet.

[PlatinumZealot]

Who watches the watchmen? Who penalizes the FIA?

[Hoffman900]

Have they not failed to produce the committed quality in 2019/20, that lead to regulation change cutting downforce for 2021? Even then, Pirelli kept bloating the tyres with higher and higher tyre pressures? Sorry, they have not produced the required quality ever. Even this year, the fronts are not sturdy enough that is causing understeer.

There isn’t a manufacturer that wants to touch this ten foot pole. Pirelli is mandated to develop tires that work while also produce a show, meanwhile the FIA does their own thing and continues to make the cars heavier and heavier. The tires can’t be all things.

Why would that mandate apply to wet weather tyres though? Are they really that dumb that they’ve instructed ‘show’ tyres for wet compounds too? I just don’t think Pirelli have the expertise.

If you think this is a --- show, go take a look at Dunlop’s issues in Australia right now, or Goodyear’s problems in NASCAR.

The issue with the rain tires is two fold:
1) open wheels
2) the aero concept of the new cars.

The better a rain tire works, the more water it evacuates. The larger the surface area on the ground, the more water that needs to be evacuated. The more water evacuated, the more water in the air (and no fenders to keep it under the car or direct out the side) and the more water in the air + an aero concept that forces air up (to reduce dirty air at car level from a trailing car) means more water in the air, which equals worst visibility.

The best rain tire from a visibility standpoint is a slick. The better the rain tire = the worse the visibility, especially in an open wheel car.

[organic]

Who watches the watchmen? Who penalizes the FIA?

Stewards will investigate it post-race and find themselves innocent

[mzivtins]

No setup would allow them to race under treacherous conditions for full distance, who are you kidding. And honestly, not interested to see them race in wet.

Formula 1 is the only formula that has this problem.

They already have the full wet Tyre, if that is not good enough then get a different Tyre.

Watching race cars in the wet is one of the most soactacular thing in the sport

For reference, watch the IGT GT3 Valencia Race2 2022 (it's all on YouTube)

Tell me an f1 race this year even close to being as good as that.

[101FlyingDutchman]

So I can’t watch it at the moment but it sounds like the typical farce we’ve gotten used to. Amazing. Sport is being destroyed from within.

[organic]

It's a joke really

[chrisc90]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Gasly is summoned for speeding under the red flag. I bet there is some strong words thrown about there