2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

[Zynerji]

Out of interest… in situations like this… do the engines have to be stopped when in the pitlane? Given we not getting full race distance, surely it’s best to keep it idling on a richer mix to burn some of the fuel off which is going to be plenty surplus at the end of the race.

I know they cannot add fuel in the pitlane. But removing excess might be ok...

[mzivtins]

Out of interest… in situations like this… do the engines have to be stopped when in the pitlane? Given we not getting full race distance, surely it’s best to keep it idling on a richer mix to burn some of the fuel off which is going to be plenty surplus at the end of the race.

The great thing is about the umbilical system is that it can fully drain a tank also, and a lot more quickly, so they will just do that if needed

[bluechris]

Gasly was running above 250klms under red flag!!!!, FIA said that.

What does that have to do with anything?

Have a tractor on track under yellows was what killed someone.

Stop blaming one driver, they all had to pass that tractor.

As years ago the driver was catching the back of a yellow flag queue as they are I structed to do so.

I thought there is a speed limit under red flag but maybe i am wrong.

[Just_a_fan]

Some decent high viz lighting on the tractors would be a good start. At least the drivers could see the thing earlier and be able to back off / move across the track. The lights on that tractor didn't look to be that good. A few high intensity LEDs wouldn't be an expensive thing to add.

[Andi76]

What a silly discussion! A tractor on track while cars are running is insane! Doesn't matter what colour flag is out. You don't don't put a tractor on track when there's still race cars going round FFS!

I think you can exaggerate it. Its not unusual under the SC! Thats even one of the reasons why the SC exists! To make it possible that cars can be recovered! And under the Safety Car it should be no problem. F1 used to do this with yellow flags only! for 64 years...untill Bianchi. After something like that happening can now react in two ways - say that even one incident is one incident to much and never again let such vehicles on track if there is a racing car moving. Or say - one incident in 64 years can just happen, there will never be total security, especially not in motorsport. Motorsport is dangerous.

If you go with the first one - you will have F1 like it is today. No race when there is more than a few drops of rain.

When you go with the second one - you get things like Barcelona 96, Monaco 97, but also one accident with someone dying every 60 years. To be honest - i prefer the second one.

That is stupid.

The driver death was not weather related. It was a human decision and action which created the deadly situation.

The rain does not cause deaths directly.

And one death every 60years? There's been two in the modern at least, BOTH caused by large vehicles in a place they should not have been in.

I could give this back as it was an accident. F1 did send recovery vehicles on track for 64 years when there were racing cars on the track. With a yellow flag only! And nothing happened for 64 years! So sorry - what happened in 2014 was just bad luck.

And even if it was two in 64 years(what was the 2nd one please?) - i still prefer the second one.

[PlatinumZealot]

Gasly was running above 250klms under red flag!!!!, FIA said that.

What does that have to do with anything?

Have a tractor on track under yellows was what killed someone.

Stop blaming one driver, they all had to pass that tractor.

As years ago the driver was catching the back of a yellow flag queue as they are I structed to do so.

It wasn't just having the tractor on track. Joules was also going at a decent speed before sliding off and also the cars hadn't any Halo at that time either.

[Mansell89]

I think you can exaggerate it. Its not unusual under the SC! Thats even one of the reasons why the SC exists! To make it possible that cars can be recovered! And under the Safety Car it should be no problem. F1 used to do this with yellow flags only! for 64 years...untill Bianchi. After something like that happening can now react in two ways - say that even one incident is one incident to much and never again let such vehicles on track if there is a racing car moving. Or say - one incident in 64 years can just happen, there will never be total security, especially not in motorsport. Motorsport is dangerous.

If you go with the first one - you will have F1 like it is today. No race when there is more than a few drops of rain.

When you go with the second one - you get things like Barcelona 96, Monaco 97, but also one accident with someone dying every 60 years. To be honest - i prefer the second one.

That is stupid.

The driver death was not weather related. It was a human decision and action which created the deadly situation.

The rain does not cause deaths directly.

And one death every 60years? There's been two in the modern at least, BOTH caused by large vehicles in a place they should not have been in.

I could give this back as it was an accident. F1 did send recovery vehicles on track for 64 years when there were racing cars on the track. With a yellow flag only! And nothing happened for 64 years! So sorry - what happened in 2014 was just bad luck.

And even if it was two in 64 years(what was the 2nd one please?) - i still prefer the second one.

This is totally ignorant and very disrespectful of that fateful day in 2014.

There were close calls before that day that the likes of Brundle had called out and the point is, that better decisions by the sport and its bosses would avoid the risk being there at all and less reliance on “luck”.

Only takes one aqua planing moment for a horrible accident or collision.

[Vanja #66]

Ah now we see what was the reason for yesterdays decision not to penalize Max and move him down the grid, certain title clinching with no running

[chrisc90]

Ah now we see what was the reason for yesterdays decision not to penalize Max and move him down the grid, certain title clinching with no running

Just imagine the outrage if the FIA delay the cost cap announcement on Monday too because some say they were waiting for Max to take the title today in Japan

[Vanja #66]

Of course they did and of course they will. Money talks and Mateschitz got it covered

[V12-POWER]

Gasly was running above 250klms under red flag!!!!, FIA said that.

What does that have to do with anything?

Have a tractor on track under yellows was what killed someone.

Stop blaming one driver, they all had to pass that tractor.

As years ago the driver was catching the back of a yellow flag queue as they are I structed to do so.

It wasn't just having the tractor on track. Joules was also going at a decent speed before sliding off and also the cars hadn't any Halo at that time either.

Lol the Halo couldn’t save Jules, don’t be naive

[search]

certain title clinching with no running

he gets 6 points only

[chrisc90]

Would come under paragraph B won’t it? Since the SC come out on lap 1

[search]

Would come under paragraph B won’t it? Since the SC come out on lap 1

ah, I thought it came out later than that. But yeah, no points then I guess

[F1NAC]

Love that wet tyre presentation, like they're using them in racing.... lol

It can disperse 85 L of water at 300kph...

When did we saw F1 car reaching 300 kph with full wets?