2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

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search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:01
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:00
Would come under paragraph B won’t it? Since the SC come out on lap 1
ah, I thought it came out later than that. But yeah, no points then I guess

I think even if it come out on lap 2 it wouldn’t count as no 2 laps without a SC intervention
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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F1NAC wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:02
Love that wet tyre presentation, like they're using them in racing.... lol

It can disperse 85 L of water at 300kph...

When did we saw F1 car reaching 300 kph with full wets?
When was the last time we saw all cars on track with the full wets?

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:02
search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:01
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:00
Would come under paragraph B won’t it? Since the SC come out on lap 1
ah, I thought it came out later than that. But yeah, no points then I guess

I think even if it come out on lap 2 it wouldn’t count as no 2 laps without a SC intervention
yeah, you're right. Would there still be an official winner, though? The rules don't seem to mention that

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F1NAC wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:02
Love that wet tyre presentation, like they're using them in racing.... lol

It can disperse 85 L of water at 300kph...

When did we saw F1 car reaching 300 kph with full wets?
The bridgestone inters were good for 65L at a lower speed.

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With the technology available today, why can’t F1 implement GPS controlled driver warnings via their dashboard when ever there are any hazards on track?
Even the simplest GPS app for the general public travel such as “Waze” informs the driver of a variety of road hazards such as debris, cars on side of road, road kill, etc..
I am quite certain that an app could be developed for F1, that could be expanded upon to meet their needs.
All rescue, safety, tractor, cranes, or any vehicle other than an F1 car should have high visibility lights. All track personnel that are on track should have high visibility lighting in their clothing or helmet as well.
The reason that retrieval vehicles are deployed while F1 cars are still on track is due to the 3hr race window that also plays a role in determining the race points.
This particular race should have been started at least one hour sooner due to the daylight issue. It should have started behind safety car, so the drivers had the opportunity to dry the track & gain visibility. That would allow driver feedback to determine whether or not to start the race & allow them to pit for tire choice as well.
Safety first and foremost!

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Why don’t they just stick a car out on full wets to clear the track. 2 or 3 cars spaced out on track should clear that water
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:03
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:02
search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:01


ah, I thought it came out later than that. But yeah, no points then I guess

I think even if it come out on lap 2 it wouldn’t count as no 2 laps without a SC intervention
yeah, you're right. Would there still be an official winner, though? The rules don't seem to mention that
Interesting question. I’d presume so, as the race had started.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:04
Why don’t they just stick a car out on full wets to clear the track. 2 or 3 cars spaced out on track should clear that water
How about 20 cars behind the safety car? That would move out out quickly.

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Wow. This second video is insane

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race resuming at 4:15, so it's going to be like a 43min race, approximately 20 laps, if at that.

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Andi76 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:40
mzivtins wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:37
Andi76 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 08:34


I think you can exaggerate it. Its not unusual under the SC! Thats even one of the reasons why the SC exists! To make it possible that cars can be recovered! And under the Safety Car it should be no problem. F1 used to do this with yellow flags only! for 64 years...untill Bianchi. After something like that happening can now react in two ways - say that even one incident is one incident to much and never again let such vehicles on track if there is a racing car moving. Or say - one incident in 64 years can just happen, there will never be total security, especially not in motorsport. Motorsport is dangerous.

If you go with the first one - you will have F1 like it is today. No race when there is more than a few drops of rain.

When you go with the second one - you get things like Barcelona 96, Monaco 97, but also one accident with someone dying every 60 years. To be honest - i prefer the second one.
That is stupid.

The driver death was not weather related. It was a human decision and action which created the deadly situation.

The rain does not cause deaths directly.

And one death every 60years? There's been two in the modern at least, BOTH caused by large vehicles in a place they should not have been in.
I could give this back as it was an accident. F1 did send recovery vehicles on track for 64 years when there were racing cars on the track. With a yellow flag only! And nothing happened for 64 years! So sorry - what happened in 2014 was just bad luck.

And even if it was two in 64 years(what was the 2nd one please?) - i still prefer the second one.
Maria de villota, struck a vehicle on pit entry.

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Zynerji wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:06
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 09:04
Why don’t they just stick a car out on full wets to clear the track. 2 or 3 cars spaced out on track should clear that water
How about 20 cars behind the safety car? That would move out out quickly.

I think the problem is the reduced visibility.

So yeah, the full wet is effectively pointless as it’ll lift more water reducing visibility further.

Maybe they should have some wheel arches they can slot on when it’s a wet race
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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If they are so scared of wet tyres, they should just get some lower formula cars to follow the circus round the world and be ready with like 5 of them to just circulate the track to dry it off

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Some people her need to unterstand that the probleme is the visibility, not the full wet. If any the problem is the heavy car witch need a big amount of upwash and bring more spray. And if a full wet would have been a better start tyre, they would have started on it. (Remember tyre just be fitted 5 min before start)