2021 Cost Cap Rumours and Speculation

[chrisc90]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

They havent accepted the breach at all. They are in discussion with the FIA about the contested items.

Thats like being accused of murder, but going to court to prove it is accepting the allegation.

You seem to be posting a lot of mis-information about it all to favour a particular viewpoint.

[DGP123]

Suddenly an agreement, because it’s been watered down through negotiation. An absolute joke.

[littlebigcat]

Well it seems the politicking works, everyone who thinks the rules should be followed should be disparaged by this.

[mwillems]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

I don’t think they should of entered into the Accepted Breach Agreement. Looks like damage control now.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

They are in negotiation, they haven't accepted it yet

[yamahasho]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

They havent accepted the breach at all. They are in discussion with the FIA about the contested items.

Thats like being accused of murder, but going to court to prove it is accepting the allegation.

You seem to be posting a lot of mis-information about it all to favour a particular viewpoint.

Yea looks like I found another unreliable news source.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

[yamahasho]

Well whatever happens and nothing happens to Red Bull, then their punishment sets the precedence on how much teams can breach the cap by.

Goodbye cost cap.

[mwillems]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

They havent accepted the breach at all. They are in discussion with the FIA about the contested items.

Thats like being accused of murder, but going to court to prove it is accepting the allegation.

You seem to be posting a lot of mis-information about it all to favour a particular viewpoint.

Yea looks like I found another unreliable news source.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

From that same article:
"Red Bull in discussions with FIA over F1 cost cap Accepted Breach Agreement"

Everyone knows they are negotiating whilst publicly saying it was all just a misunderstating, sorry I mean misunderstanding.

[chrisc90]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

They havent accepted the breach at all. They are in discussion with the FIA about the contested items.

Thats like being accused of murder, but going to court to prove it is accepting the allegation.

You seem to be posting a lot of mis-information about it all to favour a particular viewpoint.

Yea looks like I found another unreliable news source.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

the FIA offer a ABA as a option for the team to accept they got it wrong. Because the FIA has offered that, doesnt mean that the team has accepted they did anything wrong.

If the team accepts the ABA, then they will be in agreement with the FIA that there was a overspend.

Please read section 6 onwards in this document of the appropriate regulations: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -04-30.pdf

It explains the process just fine.

[Wouter]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

I don’t think they should of entered into the Accepted Breach Agreement. Looks like damage control now.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

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They are in negotiation, they haven't accepted it yet

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According to AMuS they have.
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Es war eine unglückliche Fügung, dass ausgerechnet in den letzten Tagen seines Lebens die unerfreuliche Affäre um das Überziehen des Budgetdeckels über das Team hereinbrach.
Wie jetzt zu hören ist, haben sich die Kostendeckel-Verwalter der FIA und Red Bull hinter den Kulissen auf eine Strafe geeinigt.
Sie sollte eigentlich noch während des Wochenendes in Austin kommuniziert werden. Aus Pietät wird man nun ein paar Tage damit warten.

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Translated: As can now be heard, the cost cap administrators of the FIA ​​and Red Bull have agreed on a penalty behind the scenes.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... gestorben/

[mwillems]

We’ll they already accepted the breach so now it’s all a matter of what the punishment will be, if any.

I don’t think they should of entered into the Accepted Breach Agreement. Looks like damage control now.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... 87108/amp/

“In effect, an ABA means that the team admits to breaking the rules with its 2021 spending, and accepts the punishment levied.”

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They are in negotiation, they haven't accepted it yet

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According to AMuS they have.
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Es war eine unglückliche Fügung, dass ausgerechnet in den letzten Tagen seines Lebens die unerfreuliche Affäre um das Überziehen des Budgetdeckels über das Team hereinbrach.
Wie jetzt zu hören ist, haben sich die Kostendeckel-Verwalter der FIA und Red Bull hinter den Kulissen auf eine Strafe geeinigt.
Sie sollte eigentlich noch während des Wochenendes in Austin kommuniziert werden. Aus Pietät wird man nun ein paar Tage damit warten.

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Translated: As can now be heard, the cost cap administrators of the FIA ​​and Red Bull have agreed on a penalty behind the scenes.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... gestorben/

Given that was never in any of the sources posted by Yamashosho I still believe they were misreading.

I'll wait for it to be official though but it is interesting.

[Big Tea]

Horner stated it could probably amount to a few hundred dollars.
Kind of an admission, sucks for the RedBull image. Perfect season, perfect driver, perfect race strategy and perfect 2nd driver, all now with a big asterisk.

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This is wrong. A few hundred thousand.
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Red Bull will hope that the matter will be resolved quickly, especially now that the constructors' title can also be won tomorrow. If there is a deal with the FIA, the team will be open.
Then the team wants to show how it is possible that it is about $4 million below the cap when it submits figures in March,
and now about 1.8 million above it.
1.4 million of that is possible tax refund. That's why Horner spoke today about 'a few hundred thousand dollars above cap'

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It seems that they have come to an agreement last night, but this will be announced a few days later in connection with the death of Dietrich Mateschitz, according to AMuS.

Isn't that the same amount he said could win a champions ship?

[chrisc90]

Id be surprised if there has been anything agreed. Twitter hasnt exploded with the usual journalists from the paddock reporting it. Not to mention its still 5-6am in the morning in Austin.

[InsaneX_Badger]

Don't think we will hear anything until after the race. It's just not how the FIA does things.

[Big Tea]

Don't think we will hear anything until after the race. It's just not how the FIA does things.

I have a feeling we will not hear during the season.

[LM10]

Horner seemed quite uncomfortable and reluctant when talking about this matter in the press conference yesterday. His “you know” every 2 seconds didn’t add to his uncomfortable appearance either.

If I was a principal of a team being accused of having exceeded the cost cap and if I was sure that this was not the case, I’d go out there and present myself much more straightforward.