2022 United States Grand Prix - COTA, Oct 21 - 23

[Marble]

Verstappen didn't need to attack as much as Hamilton or Leclerc in the first sector or in the fast 17-18, having the advantage in the straight lines. GP told him that clearly.
Also, after his long pitstop, GP told him that it will come naturally at the end of the race and that he should focus on tyre management at the beginning of the stint :

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[chrisc90]

Can Alonso’s points still be re-instated if successful?

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The Red Bull in Max's hands is too fast for Hamilton in that Mercedes to have won, even on the medium tyre. It might have taken a lap or two longer for Max, but he'd have still taken Hamilton before the end. Good recovery drive from Max after his pitstop problem (having won the title, one might have forgiven him a "sod it, that'll do" attitude but he went for the win), great drive by Hamilton to hold on as long as he did. But as Hamilton himself said, without others having problems, they'd have been off the podium. I was mostly surprised by Leclerc's performance at the end - expected him to be able to catch and pass Hamilton but it didn't happen.

possible, yeah, but the medium looked considerably quicker to me, and he was in front for 14 laps, mainly in clean air. I think it's reasonable to believe that Hamilton would have been 5s further ahead at least

Verstappen was already considerably quicker when both cars had the medium tire in the first stint. Hamilton's medium tires fell off badly which triggered Mercedes to pit on the first pit stop. It's likely the same would have happened on the final stint.

Just watched the COTA "Weekend Debrief" on F1TV, and they have run a simulation, according to which Hamilton on mediums would have won:



no idea how it works, or how accurate these things usually are, though.

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possible, yeah, but the medium looked considerably quicker to me, and he was in front for 14 laps, mainly in clean air. I think it's reasonable to believe that Hamilton would have been 5s further ahead at least

Verstappen was already considerably quicker when both cars had the medium tire in the first stint. Hamilton's medium tires fell off badly which triggered Mercedes to pit on the first pit stop. It's likely the same would have happened on the final stint.

Just watched the COTA "Weekend Debrief" on F1TV, and they have run a simulation, according to which Hamilton on mediums would have won:

https://i.imgur.com/GZ37Pj1.png

no idea how it works, or how accurate these things usually are, though.

Vowles said in their debrief that their simulations say they wouldn't win with mediums and if anything verstappen would've overtaken them earlier.

Given at the beginning of the race Mercedes pitted off the medium at lap 12, and already had bad degradation at that point, it's reasonable to assume their performance on the mediums wasn't as good as the hards. They were keen to get off them, and their own sims say they would have lost on mediums

No point entertaining fantasy tbf

[AR3-GP]

Verstappen was already considerably quicker when both cars had the medium tire in the first stint. Hamilton's medium tires fell off badly which triggered Mercedes to pit on the first pit stop. It's likely the same would have happened on the final stint.

Just watched the COTA "Weekend Debrief" on F1TV, and they have run a simulation, according to which Hamilton on mediums would have won:

https://i.imgur.com/GZ37Pj1.png

no idea how it works, or how accurate these things usually are, though.

Vowles said in their debrief that their simulations say they wouldn't win with mediums and if anything verstappen would've overtaken them earlier.

Given at the beginning of the race Mercedes pitted off the medium at lap 12, and already had bad degradation at that point, it's reasonable to assume their performance on the mediums wasn't as good as the hards. They were keen to get off them, and their own sims say they would have lost on mediums

No point entertaining fantasy tbf

Exactly.

[diffuser]

Can Alonso’s points still be re-instated if successful?

Why else would they be challenging?

[chrisc90]

Can Alonso’s points still be re-instated if successful?

Why else would they be challenging?

As Alonso said in the drivers briefing… this effectively sets a precedence going forwards in regards to damage and the timescale for penalty. 1 hour, 1 day, 1 year…

[AR3-GP]

Can Alonso’s points still be re-instated if successful?

Why else would they be challenging?

As Alonso said in the drivers briefing… this effectively sets a precedence going forwards in regards to damage and the timescale for penalty. 1 hour, 1 day, 1 year…

When has the FIA ever been consistent?

[Big Tea]

Why else would they be challenging?

As Alonso said in the drivers briefing… this effectively sets a precedence going forwards in regards to damage and the timescale for penalty. 1 hour, 1 day, 1 year…

When has the FIA ever been consistent?

In their inconsistency. Give 'em their dues, we know what to expect (well, not expect)

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[Sofa King]

A sport doesn’t need its own courtroom reporters and pointless distractions. Also, there is nothing more bureaucratic than taking 10 months to calculate compliance with a budget cap, where the news distracts from the racing. That’s all that should matter, the racing.

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[InsaneX_Badger]

Insert 'He's done it!!' meme here.

[MadMax]

FIA stewards in USA back a US team. FIA stewards not in USA reverse the previous decision. FIA continues to look stupid in the public eye.

Plus ça change.