2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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They tried to run the lower dwf rear wing because the engine needs to be detuned due to concerns about turbo reliability at this altitude, according to smilextech


FERRARI: There is a concern about turbo overheating, not so much for QP as for the race, given the Mexican environmental conditions. The aero was supposed to help the power unit, which is why they wanted to try to run with the medium-high load set-up.

However, it did not work on the tyres and we reverted to the most suitable aerodynamic configuration for Mexico, namely the high load. The abnormal weekend with virtually useless FP2 certainly didn't help.
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hape wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 05:45
mendis wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 05:19
If this is true, and it might very well be, how can they be beaten by an Alfa ?
Because Leclerc had additional issues. Engine cutting and not correctly responding to throttle inputs, on top of a DRS failure during the final Q3 run.

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They will race in no man's land, especially considering the usual poor race pace of Sainz. I will be embarassed if Alpine/McL or Bottas can challenge for track position.

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Another embarrassing performance but it was expected. With this loads of understeer, Sainz has often done a better job than Charles (i.e. Paul Ricard 2021), so it doesn't surprise me seeing him going quicker.

Still, overall performance of the car was just awful.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 05:46
The race will be a massacre.
Ehem…
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:41
AR3-GP wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 05:46
The race will be a massacre.
Ehem…

:shock: fair play

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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:41
AR3-GP wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 05:46
The race will be a massacre.
Ehem…
viewtopic.php?p=1085886#p1085886

:D :D

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Xyz22 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:22
Another embarrassing performance but it was expected. With this loads of understeer, Sainz has often done a better job than Charles (i.e. Paul Ricard 2021), so it doesn't surprise me seeing him going quicker.

Still, overall performance of the car was just awful.
Carlos just said that the car felt really good to drive. This confirms he loves cars with massive amount of understeer. Unfortunately my friend you won't be able to compete for the win with a car so compromised on one side.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the car was terrible and they couldn't fix the issues from yesterday. Fantastic.

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Xyz22 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:31
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:22
Another embarrassing performance but it was expected. With this loads of understeer, Sainz has often done a better job than Charles (i.e. Paul Ricard 2021), so it doesn't surprise me seeing him going quicker.

Still, overall performance of the car was just awful.
Carlos just said that the car felt really good to drive. This confirms he loves cars with massive amount of understeer. Unfortunately my friend you won't be able to compete for the win with a car so compromised on one side.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the car was terrible and they couldn't fix the issues from yesterday. Fantastic.
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Xyz22 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:31
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:22
Another embarrassing performance but it was expected. With this loads of understeer, Sainz has often done a better job than Charles (i.e. Paul Ricard 2021), so it doesn't surprise me seeing him going quicker.

Still, overall performance of the car was just awful.
Carlos just said that the car felt really good to drive. This confirms he loves cars with massive amount of understeer. Unfortunately my friend you won't be able to compete for the win with a car so compromised on one side.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the car was terrible and they couldn't fix the issues from yesterday. Fantastic.
Renault R-25
This was a champion car and a car with a lot of understeer. same por R26.
red bulls from 2010 to 2013 had understeer too (had a better balance, but an extremely stable rear)

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Is Leclerc's PU issue an altitude specific issue or is it a general and terminal PU issue? He did well to keep up with Sainz for most of the race with the PU problem.
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AR3-GP wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:50
Is Leclerc's PU issue an altitude specific issue or is it a general and terminal PU issue? He did well to keep up with Sainz for most of the race with the PU problem.
Overall the PU performance was terrible both for Sainz and Charles. The latter had the same issues from yesterday (outside the DRS which was working) in throttle response, etc. But the lack of power was just one of the (many) issues today.

The car was absolutely awful in S2 and S3 with loads of understeer. It was painful to watch.

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Alonsismo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:49
Xyz22 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:31
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 23:22
Another embarrassing performance but it was expected. With this loads of understeer, Sainz has often done a better job than Charles (i.e. Paul Ricard 2021), so it doesn't surprise me seeing him going quicker.

Still, overall performance of the car was just awful.
Carlos just said that the car felt really good to drive. This confirms he loves cars with massive amount of understeer. Unfortunately my friend you won't be able to compete for the win with a car so compromised on one side.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the car was terrible and they couldn't fix the issues from yesterday. Fantastic.
Renault R-25
This was a champion car and a car with a lot of understeer. same por R26.
red bulls from 2010 to 2013 had understeer too (had a better balance, but an extremely stable rear)
None of those RB cars had any meaningful understeer as far as I remember. The Renault did but, as you would appreciate, it was more on Alonso who made it work + some luck on the tire compound back then. I think had Alonso driven that Renault with the current tires, we'd probably be looking at 8 championships for Schumacher.

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Gillian wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 01:10
Alonsismo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:49
Xyz22 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:31


Carlos just said that the car felt really good to drive. This confirms he loves cars with massive amount of understeer. Unfortunately my friend you won't be able to compete for the win with a car so compromised on one side.

Meanwhile, Leclerc said the car was terrible and they couldn't fix the issues from yesterday. Fantastic.
Renault R-25
This was a champion car and a car with a lot of understeer. same por R26.
red bulls from 2010 to 2013 had understeer too (had a better balance, but an extremely stable rear)
None of those RB cars had any meaningful understeer as far as I remember. The Renault did but, as you would appreciate, it was more on Alonso who made it work + some luck on the tire compound back then. I think had Alonso driven that Renault with the current tires, we'd probably be looking at 8 championships for Schumacher.
Indeed. The V8 RBs had massive amount of downforce and an extremely stable rear end, which allowed Vettel to exploit his driving style in the best possible way.

Check the difference between Sainz and Max in sector 2. It's embarrassing.

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Xyz22 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 01:13
Gillian wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 01:10
Alonsismo wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 00:49


Renault R-25
This was a champion car and a car with a lot of understeer. same por R26.
red bulls from 2010 to 2013 had understeer too (had a better balance, but an extremely stable rear)
None of those RB cars had any meaningful understeer as far as I remember. The Renault did but, as you would appreciate, it was more on Alonso who made it work + some luck on the tire compound back then. I think had Alonso driven that Renault with the current tires, we'd probably be looking at 8 championships for Schumacher.
Indeed. The V8 RBs had massive amount of downforce and an extremely stable rear end, which allowed Vettel to exploit his driving style in the best possible way.

Check the difference between Sainz and Max in sector 2. It's embarrassing.
Ferrari also didn't seem to ride the curbs well anymore (remember Imola when they were riding them like a GT car lol).

I felt sorry for the drivers having to do 71 laps with the car trying to kill them in the esses.
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