FERRARI LMH testing

[johnny comelately]

[johnny comelately]

All I heard was bellissima and grande...

[AR3-GP]

This ferrari is a proper prototype. It's a shame the ACO have nerfed LMP1 performance. We should be in the 3:12s at Le Mans.

[organic]

Beautiful! Hope it's quick

[Zynerji]

Are they still running diesels in LeMans? I haven't ever really followed that series.

[MadMax]

Are the rules very restrictive in terms of bodywork, etc.? Except in detail, the Ferrari and Porsche look pretty similar with high wheel arches and low mid body and a tiny cockpit pod. And a number of details are remarkably similar too e.g. roof top strakes.

[AR3-GP]

It's very similar looking to the Porsche. Nice livery. Hope it runs well.

I pointed that out as well. The similarity is uncanny.

It could point to an aerodynamic convergence.

[johnny comelately]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_499P

[johnny comelately]

Are they still running diesels in LeMans? I haven't ever really followed that series.

Stopped with Audi withdrawal sadly.
But what Baretzky pioneered is what the current F1 engine philosophy has evolved from. IMHO.

[Zynerji]

Are they still running diesels in LeMans? I haven't ever really followed that series.

Stopped with Audi withdrawal sadly.
But what Baretzky pioneered is what the current F1 engine philosophy has evolved from. IMHO.

Thanks!

[johnny comelately]

Dual posted but with good reason
using a redesigned 296 engine to be a stressed member and not Compacted graphite iron!

[Honda Porsche fan]

Many of the manufacturers that compete in FIA Le Mans Hypercar and Daytona LMDh do not build their own chassis/aero. The chassis are built by Oreca, Dallara and Multimatic...

Acura/Honda ARX-06 LMDh chassis is built by Oreca...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_ARX-06

BMW M Hybrid V8 is built by Dallara...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M_Hybrid_V8

Cadillac V-LMDh chassis is built by Dallara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V-LMDh

Porsche 963 Lmdh is built by Multimatic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_963


I miss the old FIA GT Championship from 1996 to 1999...

McLaren F1 GTR Long Tail
Mercedes CLK GTR
Porsche 911 GT1

Bring it back!

[MadMax]

It's very similar looking to the Porsche. Nice livery. Hope it runs well.

I pointed that out as well. The similarity is uncanny.

It could point to an aerodynamic convergence.

Yes, it could be a convergence. I wasn't sure if the rules regarding bodywork were just pushing the teams that way - I haven't studied the rules for the series so haven't an answer to that.

[SiLo]

Many of the manufacturers that compete in FIA Le Mans Hypercar and Daytona LMDh do not build their own chassis/aero. The chassis are built by Oreca, Dallara and Multimatic...

Acura/Honda ARX-06 LMDh chassis is built by Oreca...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_ARX-06

BMW M Hybrid V8 is built by Dallara...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M_Hybrid_V8

Cadillac V-LMDh chassis is built by Dallara.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V-LMDh

Porsche 963 Lmdh is built by Multimatic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_963


I miss the old FIA GT Championship from 1996 to 1999...

McLaren F1 GTR Long Tail
Mercedes CLK GTR
Porsche 911 GT1

Bring it back!

That's because LMDh Chassis are only built by 4 manufacturers, and an engine and gearbox is supplied as well. That's the main difference between LMH and LMDh. LMH allows the manufacturers to build the entire car to whatever regs they have set.

There is a good video about it here:

[Vanja #66]

Yes, it could be a convergence. I wasn't sure if the rules regarding bodywork were just pushing the teams that way - I haven't studied the rules for the series so haven't an answer to that.

It's a convergence 40 years in the making, ever since Group C started. Not much to go around with when you want to achieve low-drag high-efficiency design with closed cockpit and wheels. Now that FIA made LMH and LMDh rules around fixed L, D and L/D values, there are a lot of things teams can do with these cars (within wheelbase allowance) but optimal design concept doesn't leave a lot of room for it. The devil is in the details. And how the FIA measures those L, D values