2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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mendis wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 07:55
Fer.Fan wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 07:50
Accordin to Binotto they can not keep up development race becouse of budget cap. They have spent all their money allready. Thats why we don’t see any updates on the car last few races. I think Ferrari needs slim their organisation duo to budget cap.
They have lost close to 4 million in car damages so far. The drivers need to pay close attention to such mistakes that costs millions and cripples development.
Source?

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World destructor's championship posts on reddit keep track of damage costs. It seems reasonable in terms of general amounts IMO and the user that tracks this puts in a huge amount of effort

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organic wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 14:38
World destructor's championship posts on reddit keep track of damage costs. It seems reasonable in terms of general amounts IMO and the user that tracks this puts in a huge amount of effort

https://i.redd.it/50mov0r4i5x91.png
I know that it's a rough approximation but all of the Ferrari crashes have been extremely costly. Binotto said the following earlier this year:
“For us, four million represents the development parts for an entire season. Four million means 70 people in a technical department who can come up with and produce solutions that could be worth up to half a second a lap.”
Using the destructors championship estimate, Ferrari drivers cost the team an entire season's worth of development.
A lion must kill its prey.

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organic wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 14:38
World destructor's championship posts on reddit keep track of damage costs. It seems reasonable in terms of general amounts IMO and the user that tracks this puts in a huge amount of effort

https://i.redd.it/50mov0r4i5x91.png
While i appreciate the effort, this is not an official source by any means, therefore is not even remotely close to be considered reliable.

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Xyz22 wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 15:09
organic wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 14:38
World destructor's championship posts on reddit keep track of damage costs. It seems reasonable in terms of general amounts IMO and the user that tracks this puts in a huge amount of effort

https://i.redd.it/50mov0r4i5x91.png
While i appreciate the effort, this is not an official source by any means, therefore is not even remotely close to be considered reliable.
Of course. wasn't intended to be a reliable source.. just something interesting

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At this point, would it be beneficial for Ferrari to just surrender that #2 spot to Mercedes so they can get more aero time next year?

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codetower wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 16:50
At this point, would it be beneficial for Ferrari to just surrender that #2 spot to Mercedes so they can get more aero time next year?
Keeping in mind though that along with the allowed time, it has to be funded.
If they are really running so close to the cap, can they find it?
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There is also a possibility that their sponsors have performance clauses.
It's not an easy decision.

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tpe wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 22:18
There is also a possibility that their sponsors have performance clauses.
It's not an easy decision.
Theres no way there's a performance clause for P2 vs P3.
A lion must kill its prey.

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codetower wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 16:50
At this point, would it be beneficial for Ferrari to just surrender that #2 spot to Mercedes so they can get more aero time next year?
The difference is too small.

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Xyz22 wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 23:44
codetower wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 16:50
At this point, would it be beneficial for Ferrari to just surrender that #2 spot to Mercedes so they can get more aero time next year?
The difference is too small.
What would the difference be for income?

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johnny comelately wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 23:57
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 23:44
codetower wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 16:50
At this point, would it be beneficial for Ferrari to just surrender that #2 spot to Mercedes so they can get more aero time next year?
The difference is too small.
What would the difference be for income?
5% wind tunnel/cfd more, but $8m less in prize money if Ferrari lose 2nd. He estimates 5% cfd/tunnel time is worth half a tenth



Duchessa saying there's no way Ferrari will finish 3rd.

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organic wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 00:01
johnny comelately wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 23:57
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Nov 2022, 23:44


The difference is too small.
What would the difference be for income?
5% wind tunnel/cfd more, but $8m less in prize money if Ferrari lose 2nd. He estimates 5% cfd/tunnel time is worth half a tenth



Duchessa saying there's no way Ferrari will finish 3rd.
thank you

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organic wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 00:01
5% wind tunnel/cfd more, but $8m less in prize money if Ferrari lose 2nd. He estimates 5% cfd/tunnel time is worth half a tenth



Duchessa saying there's no way Ferrari will finish 3rd.
That's the best proof how insignificant rb cap breach penalty is. Money is non-issue for both teams, yet 5% more aero time is not worth the infamy of finishing behind Mercedes again.

8m for Ferrari is for shareholders and displaying profitability graphs in lack of titles...
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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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