Renault's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that the French manufacturer aims to continue its ascent in the engine department as the company is preparing a completely new platform, including novel technology that has not yet been seen on the track.
It appears to be a two-stage inlet system?Blackout wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 21:14So I guess the variable length trumpets are inside the blue colored box... but why would the plenum need such (complex) spaghetti and individual piping between the intercooler and the v6? why it is not an empty box like many other plenums?
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My bet would be on the exhaust manifold? It sounded weird for a few laps, and then maybe it was leaking enough pressure that a safety mode kicked in to avoid further damage.
OK, ha ha, my excuse: I'm not familiar with it.
Okay but what about Ocon's water issues in Mexico?
Otmar claimed the Mexico PU was on it's last race. That suggests it wasn't the same one as in COTA, which he took a grid penalty to replace.
They went for performance at the expense of reliability. So this was expected. I was expecting worse. Kind of weird how it's one sided but that happens. When you think about, most of the time Alonso is ahead of Ocon so, it's also why when here tires it's more painful.
The worrying part is it's not like they are at a class leading performance level when it's working (like the Ferrari). Ferrari is who you point to when you say "we chased performance over reliability". Given the Renault isn't class leading on the ICE (Ferrari) or the MGU-H/K side (Honda), it's not like the numbers they are putting up are pushing the envelope relative to what's possible from 100kg/hr of fuel. It's rather just a design that is not neccesarily class leading in any way, that also happens to be constructed from chocolate.diffuser wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 22:24They went for performance at the expense of reliability.
Next year, I think they're f8cked regardless if the PU is reliable. Hopefully, I'm wrong but that's my feeling.
Scarbs and a former driver did a PU analysis on youtube, can't rember his name. They claimed the Renault was the least powerful by a couple of percentage points in all areas. Although, the Renault PU lead all teams in power in the high heat of Miami.AR3-GP wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 23:45The worrying part is it's not like they are at a class leading performance level when it's working (like the Ferrari). Ferrari is who you point to when you say "we chased performance over reliability". Given the Renault isn't class leading on the ICE (Ferrari) or the MGU-H/K side (Honda), it's not like the numbers they are putting up are pushing the envelope relative to what's possible from 100kg/hr of fuel. It's rather just a design that is not neccesarily class leading in any way, that also happens to be constructed from chocolate.
There is always a possibility of unlocking more performance from the PU once the reliability is there. But given Renault's track record of improvement since their return, it just doesn't seem very likely.AR3-GP wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 23:45The worrying part is it's not like they are at a class leading performance level when it's working (like the Ferrari). Ferrari is who you point to when you say "we chased performance over reliability". Given the Renault isn't class leading on the ICE (Ferrari) or the MGU-H/K side (Honda), it's not like the numbers they are putting up are pushing the envelope relative to what's possible from 100kg/hr of fuel. It's rather just a design that is not neccesarily class leading in any way, that also happens to be constructed from chocolate.
They've always made the PU more reliable with time. They're issue has been more about not being on the cutting edge, inovative. They fare better in a freeze.They don't seem to have the budget to keep up with the other 3.peewon wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 07:56There is always a possibility of unlocking more performance from the PU once the reliability is there. But given Renault's track record of improvement since their return, it just doesn't seem very likely.AR3-GP wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 23:45The worrying part is it's not like they are at a class leading performance level when it's working (like the Ferrari). Ferrari is who you point to when you say "we chased performance over reliability". Given the Renault isn't class leading on the ICE (Ferrari) or the MGU-H/K side (Honda), it's not like the numbers they are putting up are pushing the envelope relative to what's possible from 100kg/hr of fuel. It's rather just a design that is not neccesarily class leading in any way, that also happens to be constructed from chocolate.
