BrawnGP

[Giblet]

They are exploiting the same loophole as the diffuser me thinks.

That winglet, when looked at from the top view, might not be visible, because of the mirror support. Much like the floor is still flat when looked at form plan view, even though there are holes in it.

Just a guess.

[Callum]

They are exploiting the same loophole as the diffuser me thinks.

That winglet, when looked at from the top view, might not be visible, because of the mirror support. Much like the floor is still flat when looked at form plan view, even though there are holes in it.

Just a guess.

It makes sense... but i would have thought the rules would have been more stringent.. but it is F1 we're talking about.

[PlatinumZealot]

The rear view mirrors are wing profiles too. So i think Brawn team is just applying the same rules to the Bargeboard winglet. Maybe it is in an allowable distance from the middle of the car??

[siskue2005]

They are exploiting the same loophole as the diffuser me thinks.

That winglet, when looked at from the top view, might not be visible, because of the mirror support. Much like the floor is still flat when looked at form plan view, even though there are holes in it.

Just a guess.

Do you think the rule makers are that dumb!?

The looking from below rule only applies to diffusor!
there is an area around the side pod(some cm infront of cockpit and behind it aswell) where the minimum radius bodywork rule dont apply!
Thats why you see bargeboards, difflectors(like Ferrari mirror support)all teams, BMW have grills like last year etc etc etc !!!!!!!
see this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/227
This
http://www.f1technical.net/development/223
This
http://www.f1technical.net/development/221
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/220
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/237
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/230
And this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/229

[Giblet]

They are exploiting the same loophole as the diffuser me thinks.

That winglet, when looked at from the top view, might not be visible, because of the mirror support. Much like the floor is still flat when looked at form plan view, even though there are holes in it.

Just a guess.

Do you think the rule makers are that dumb!?

The looking from below rule only applies to diffusor!
there is an area around the side pod(some cm infront of cockpit and behind it aswell) where the minimum radius bodywork rule dont apply!
Thats why you see bargeboards, difflectors(like Ferrari mirror support)all teams, BMW have grills like last year etc etc etc !!!!!!!
see this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/227
This
http://www.f1technical.net/development/223
This
http://www.f1technical.net/development/221
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/220
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/237
this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/230
And this
http://www.f1technical.net/development/229

Yes I do. Wouldn't surprise me at all. They allowed a team to have holes in a flat floor.

That's why it's a loophole. Loopholes are unexpected things.

I can say, you clarified the living crap out of that. Thanks for all the links. One would suffice, as I don't need 7 links to understand something so simple.

Sheesh, this place is getting angry, and foul lately.

[Giblet]

Did you know the entire staff of Brawn GP is flying EasyJET to the races? I don't think EasyJET is a Virgin subsidiary is it?

I wonder how long that will last with Virgin being title sponsor.

Good to see them being smart and saving pennies where needed.

I've flown a lot on private jets, and while terribly convenient, they do make you automatically more obnoxious. You can never drive in your whole life, but one flight in a jetliner and you have done more damage to the atmosphere then all your years of driving a blown Hemi.

[sticky667]

that's a definite sign they are not looking for title sponsor from Virgin, given his lack of funding. that's a slap in the face if you ask me. Even with his $250k payments per race, you would think he would fly them around and not give EasyJET the publicity.

[Giblet]

You obviously didn't read the article as you took it right out of context. It's not a sponsorship deal.

They were flying Eastjet early on, because it was the cheapest way for them to go. They pay this money, and if Virgin is more pricey, and it's not included in their sponsorship, why would they bother?

They don't fly the Easyjet flag, they don't even advertise it. It was observed by an F1 editorialist/reporter (Mike Lawrence of Pitpass and other fame) and merely commented on in an article.

They might have an existing bulk contract for the year with easyjet, and are unable to change it.

[sticky667]

actually i did read it in it's entirety and i didn't ever say it was a sponsorship deal. i said Virgin wouldn't allow that if they were absolutely serious about a title sponsorship.

[Giblet]

You said it was a definite sign that they are not looking for title sponsorship, because they fly easyjet. I would imagine that they were already flying on easyjet around the world to honda, brackley, home and abroad for the design and build staff, before Branson's name was even mentioned or a possibility.

If Virgin offers cheap flights to brawn as part of the sponsorship deal, and they turn it down, then that would be a slap in the face. Does everyone on the team now have a Virgin phone? Unlikely. Big deal? Not at all.

Otherwise it's just good business sense traveling for cheap.

[siskue2005]

@"Giblet"
i was not being rude or something! I am Sorry if you felt like that.
i just got all that links so that you would understand that all the teams have such things.

[Giblet]

All good. I appreciate the extra work you went to to correct me. After the 6th link I had it figured out

[zgred]

New in the front, old in the back?

[ISLAMATRON]

yep

[ISLAMATRON]

better look at that new front wing, probly on its way to tech inspect