2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

[AR3-GP]

Leclerc has done a sprint race sim on the soft.

[langedweil]

I think the powers that be have also realised this and noises from paddock seem to be that sprints will be standalone events next season. At least that's what it sounds like now

If so, fair enough ..
Then have every sprint start in the reversed order of the WDC standings on Friday before FP1, and keep the Sprint fully without parc-fermé rules.
FP1/2 & Q on Sat, Sunday race ..

[AR3-GP]

I think the powers that be have also realised this and noises from paddock seem to be that sprints will be standalone events next season. At least that's what it sounds like now

If so, fair enough ..
Then have every sprint start in the reversed order of the WDC standings on Friday before FP1, and keep the Sprint fully without parc-fermé rules.
FP1/2 & Q on Sat, Sunday race ..

Or just use the best times from FP1 to set the sprint race order. "Qualifying practice" has an underrated appeal if you ask me.

[Big Tea]

I think the powers that be have also realised this and noises from paddock seem to be that sprints will be standalone events next season. At least that's what it sounds like now

If so, fair enough ..
Then have every sprint start in the reversed order of the WDC standings on Friday before FP1, and keep the Sprint fully without parc-fermé rules.
FP1/2 & Q on Sat, Sunday race ..

A sprint race starts on low(er) fuel too so the range should be better than a 'normal' race stint

[AR3-GP]

Unfortunately for Magnussen, Ferrari powered teams have had a season long start issue.

[renault rs26]

still better than last year's rule, I'd say.

What's the alternative? A second qualifying, and two pole positions per (sprint) weekend? FP2 now is pointless anyway, so there could be room for it.

Possibly starting the sprint with something random, like reverse current points order, or just plain 'pot luck'?

TBH, if the sprint is to be a stand alone, why not run it on Sat with qualli and race on the same day?

maybe, yeah. Or just do whatever kind of random sprint race instead of (Friday's) FP2, without Quali before, and then continue with the normal race weekend.

But I'm not really a fan of the sprint anyway, so may just look for opportunities to get it out of the way

Maybe reintroduce one lap qualifying with sprint deciding running order.

[Big Tea]

Possibly starting the sprint with something random, like reverse current points order, or just plain 'pot luck'?

TBH, if the sprint is to be a stand alone, why not run it on Sat with qualli and race on the same day?

maybe, yeah. Or just do whatever kind of random sprint race instead of (Friday's) FP2, without Quali before, and then continue with the normal race weekend.

But I'm not really a fan of the sprint anyway, so may just look for opportunities to get it out of the way

Maybe reintroduce one lap qualifying with sprint deciding running order.

Yeah, Sprint qualli for sprint race

The way things seem to be going in F1 at the moment it is more likely to be a phone in for starting slot.

[Chuckjr]

The sprint race is gimmicky and contrived. It feels like F1 whoring itself every weekend it’s on.

[DGP123]

The sprint weekend is designed to **** up the norm. I hate it, but it works, and the casuals and DTS love it. Even worse, we got six of these bloody weekends next season. Awful stuff.

[organic]

Ferrari race pace in Fp2 was looking very good relative to RB. Sainz matched max.

Not many times Sainz has done that this season, but hard to know exactly what RB/Ferrari were doing with running in Fp2 eg engine modes

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Ferrari race pace in Fp2 was looking very good relative to RB. Sainz matched max.

Not many times Sainz has done that this season, but hard to know exactly what RB/Ferrari were doing with running in Fp2 eg engine modes

Verstappen durely doesn't look great so far. Not sure they managed to get the car into balance for him.

Did you get the times from live timing or do you have a secret source for all lap times? Unfortunately the FIA site hasn't even uploaded those from FP1 yet.

[Spacepace]

Explain more where the double crossing was?

He never said they double crossed anyone. Only that Red Bull played it off well. Regulation power plays encouraged by Red Bull that they knew was to there advantage. They'd know what the engine was putting out on the dyno. Nothing wrong with maneuvering themselves like that. Red Bull are well put together team

Besides the reading issues...you really think they knew also what the others had on the dyno? And you know how much the real difference is now? Is it really that big that one could aim for this huge difference in 2020???

The difference seen this season has more to do with the ethanol based fuel. And of course they didn't know what others were bringing but they knew the target they would need to achieve to be able to be in the mix with the Mercedes and Ferrari PUs

[AR3-GP]

Ferrari race pace in Fp2 was looking very good relative to RB. Sainz matched max.

Not many times Sainz has done that this season, but hard to know exactly what RB/Ferrari were doing with running in Fp2 eg engine modes

Verstappen durely doesn't look great so far. Not sure they managed to get the car into balance for him.

Did you get the times from live timing or do you have a secret source for all lap times? Unfortunately the FIA site hasn't even uploaded those from FP1 yet.

f1-tempo.com Data is typically posted within 45 minutes after any session.

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Ferrari race pace in Fp2 was looking very good relative to RB. Sainz matched max.

Not many times Sainz has done that this season, but hard to know exactly what RB/Ferrari were doing with running in Fp2 eg engine modes

Verstappen durely doesn't look great so far. Not sure they managed to get the car into balance for him.

Did you get the times from live timing or do you have a secret source for all lap times? Unfortunately the FIA site hasn't even uploaded those from FP1 yet.

f1-tempo.com Data is typically posted within 45 minutes after any session.

thanks, forgot about that site - but there's also no way to copy the full data, or is there?

There's also some kind of command-line tool to plot all lap times live, but I lack the skills to get that to work

edit: meanwhile FIA has published the lap times, btw. Perez looked clearly quickest

[AR3-GP]

Verstappen durely doesn't look great so far. Not sure they managed to get the car into balance for him.

Did you get the times from live timing or do you have a secret source for all lap times? Unfortunately the FIA site hasn't even uploaded those from FP1 yet.

f1-tempo.com Data is typically posted within 45 minutes after any session.

thanks, forgot about that site - but there's also no way to copy the full data, or is there?

There's also some kind of command-line tool to plot all lap times live, but I lack the skills to get that to work

edit: meanwhile FIA has published the lap times, btw. Perez looked clearly quickest

Which runs did you compare? Max’s soft tire stint at the end looked roughly 3-4 tenths quicker than Checo’s soft tire stint at the same time. However when they were on hards at the beginning, Perez was almost 1-1.5 seconds quicker.

Note that I wouldn’t expect anyone to use the hard tire today or tomorrow. If I’m not mistaken, RB used one set of hards on Friday, and last new set today.