2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

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Re: 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina, Nov 18 - 20

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Max is really peerless. Perez proves RBR is a good car, Max makes it dominant. I agree with you all, that Max in any of the top 3 cars this year would still win the 2022 title.

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Thank God that's over.

Filled with non f1 fans again, lead up of just celebs with no interest on the grid.

What an awful track and awful location for f1, not the worst of course but f1 is very quickly becoming the party you, as a fan, are not invited to.

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harty71 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:50
Spoutnik wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:48
harty71 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:46


No bias, just calling it like it is.

He fried his tyres for one reason or another which is very unusual and disappointing from him.

His pace and consistency on the hards showed that he finally got his act together.

That's his season down to a tee, messy and inconsistent with times of promise.
He has not lost his race pace which is his strong point since 2017.
He even beat Russell on qualy (despite the fugazi of Hungary etc)
He appears to have lost some of his tyre management skills, just look at the first stint.

He mad much stronger pace than the Ferrari's, passed Sainz after letting him back through and within a lap his tyres were toast, that much so he was eaten up by Russell and fell a further 3 seconds behind.
I thought the high downforce was going to protect the tires.
A lion must kill its prey.

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grubschumi13 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:54
Max is really peerless. Perez proves RBR is a good car, Max makes it dominant. I agree with you all, that Max in any of the top 3 cars this year would still win the 2022 title.
That is pretty laughable statement I'm sorry

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grubschumi13 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:54
Max is really peerless. Perez proves RBR is a good car, Max makes it dominant. I agree with you all, that Max in any of the top 3 cars this year would still win the 2022 title.
I agree with you all... :lol:

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It seems that when Pirelli bring tyres that work with all three compounds Ferrari are able to get things working. If it's just the two compounds that work Merc are strong

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Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:04
It seems that when Pirelli bring tyres that work with all three compounds Ferrari are able to get things working. If it's just the two compounds that work Merc are strong
Duchessa says that the Ferrari worked again because they were able to lower the car on the smooth Yas Marina tarmac. Note that in Mexico and Brazil, their PU struggled.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:07
Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:04
It seems that when Pirelli bring tyres that work with all three compounds Ferrari are able to get things working. If it's just the two compounds that work Merc are strong
Duchessa says that the Ferrari worked again because they were able to lower the car on the smooth Yas Marina tarmac. Note that in Mexico and Brazil, their PU struggled.
Hmm good point. That technical directive to stop flexi planks ended the championship battle

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Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:04
It seems that when Pirelli bring tyres that work with all three compounds Ferrari are able to get things working. If it's just the two compounds that work Merc are strong
When I think back to the times of Mansell, Hill, Mika and MS, I know I was a very young, but I can' recall teams/drivers having difficulty switching tyres on or off.

I recall differences between Bridgestone and Michelin, but nothing like we've had with Pirelli

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Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:09
AR3-GP wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:07
Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:04
It seems that when Pirelli bring tyres that work with all three compounds Ferrari are able to get things working. If it's just the two compounds that work Merc are strong
Duchessa says that the Ferrari worked again because they were able to lower the car on the smooth Yas Marina tarmac. Note that in Mexico and Brazil, their PU struggled.
Hmm good point. That technical directive to stop flexi planks ended the championship battle
Without doubt it did. Ferrari's non performance related issues aside, Verstappen wouldn't have wrapped it up in Japan otherwise and Charles would have finished well clear of Perez in the rankings.
A lion must kill its prey.

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In hindsight all that tyre management on hards was perhaps somewhat excessive. Verstappen was barely giving it any throttle trough high speed corners, silly amount of under-driving tbh. Meanwhile leclerc sending it didn't exactly make him slow in the end, even if he did drop some pace towards the end.

As for Perez, bottom line is he just didn't have the pace to beat leclerc, as has been the case almost entire year. Along with making some mistakes that probably cost him 3-5s in race time it sealed P3 for him. I don't think Lec made a single error, and that made the difference in the end.

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:11
Spacepace wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:09
AR3-GP wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 17:07


Duchessa says that the Ferrari worked again because they were able to lower the car on the smooth Yas Marina tarmac. Note that in Mexico and Brazil, their PU struggled.
Hmm good point. That technical directive to stop flexi planks ended the championship battle
Without doubt it did. Ferrari's non performance related issues aside, Verstappen wouldn't have wrapped it up in Japan otherwise and Charles would have finished well clear of Perez in the rankings.
Ferrari were bringing a few big updates instead of constantly updating like Red Bull. I'm sure once they fell back they cancelled further updates so I think they had more in that car but those costs would make more sense to be allocated for '23

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Verstappen pretty much said at the end that he wasn't pushing at any point.
A lion must kill its prey.

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grubschumi13 wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 16:54
Max is really peerless. Perez proves RBR is a good car, Max makes it dominant. I agree with you all, that Max in any of the top 3 cars this year would still win the 2022 title.
No doubt Max is very good but rest of the part is just too much.

Ferrari were good in first half lost out in second. their strategic & reliability blunders made Leclerc lose 3 wins ( Spain, Monaco, Silverstone ) and 1 or 2 more podiums. Had to take gird penalty for 3 races. Thats easily 100+ points thrown away.

Mercs were shyt in first half, only manage to get in the groove in last 5-6 races.

i don't see how or where Max would have brought out those wins & points to win title if he was driving for Ferrari or mercs .

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Wonder why Verstappen didn't do to Leclerc what Perez did on Hamilton last year... He had so much pace to defend himself, but stop Charles with ease.