2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

People overthink the settlement. Ferrari didn't agree to "nerf" themselves for 2 years as "punishment". No team would have done that. The reason they fell so far behind on the engine front is simple. They had to design an engine with a new concept from scratch. They had one winter to do it. If it was as simple as the fuel flow theory, they would have just used the same engine with less fuel. This technology goes beyond F1 and you can understand why Ferrari didn't want it out there.

[Schippke]

Bring back Briatore instead!

Would never happen, but not going to lie… it would truly be something to witness him heading Ferrari. His history is questionable, but so is Ferrari’s and most of the other teams on the grid…

It would at the very least provide a lot of entertainment, and I’d imagine more enjoyable than what we all witnessed from Ferrari several times this year on and off the track… who knows, Alonso might even jump back in.

*apologies for double posting*

[diffuser]

I think they let Ferrari getaway with it. Then the said they were gonna tweak the sensors. How do you get the FIA to not tweak the sensors. Kind of like asking them not to increase the weight for any flex test. So once the FIA have an Idea of how you're getting your hand in the cookie jar without anyone noticing and start down the road of building a better mousetrap. The gig is up.

Thing is the FIA themselves couldn’t truly grasp how Ferrari was doing it… only that they had suspicions based on what the other teams were bringing forward. There was never any concrete evidence on it that was released; It literally took the FIA to ask Ferrari how they were getting around it and in coming clean, the details were kept private and a settlement was made… whether this was right or not (most likely not), is debatable.

The tyre test from Mercedes and the Wing Flex from Red Bull was clear for all parties to see… but the fuel flow saga, a lot less so.

They had RBR and Merc whispering sweet nothings in thier ears.

[f1316]

People overthink the settlement. Ferrari didn't agree to "nerf" themselves for 2 years as "punishment". No team would have done that. The reason they fell so far behind on the engine front is simple. They had to design an engine with a new concept from scratch. They had one winter to do it. If it was as simple as the fuel flow theory, they would have just used the same engine with less fuel. This technology goes beyond F1 and you can understand why Ferrari didn't want it out there.

Right and so this is his real culpability in my view (rather than accepting the deal): it was putting too many of his eggs in one basket. Whatever they were doing - fuel flow or whatever - and however legal and clever they must have felt their interpretation was, they must also have known it was a loophole/grey area. The fact that the engine was SO poor without the use of whatever trick they had was terrible planning and Binotto allowed them to get caught with their pants down.

I still think the recovery was sufficiently good that there’s good reason to believe that, on the technical front, the car will continue to get better in terms of competitiveness next year. It seems like the lack of confidence is more on the operational front, and there I can see why folks may not believe this will somehow get better year on year without a leadership change.

[AR3-GP]

People overthink the settlement. Ferrari didn't agree to "nerf" themselves for 2 years as "punishment". No team would have done that. The reason they fell so far behind on the engine front is simple. They had to design an engine with a new concept from scratch. They had one winter to do it. If it was as simple as the fuel flow theory, they would have just used the same engine with less fuel. This technology goes beyond F1 and you can understand why Ferrari didn't want it out there.

Right and so this is his real culpability in my view (rather than accepting the deal): it was putting too many of his eggs in one basket. Whatever they were doing - fuel flow or whatever - and however legal and clever they must have felt their interpretation was, they must also have known it was a loophole/grey area. The fact that the engine was SO poor without the use of whatever trick they had was terrible planning and Binotto allowed them to get caught with their pants down.

This is a very fair criticism. Too many eggs in one basket. We've often seen that the Mercedes and the Red Bull gain their superiority from a wide array of technical avenues. Their concepts still had performance leftover even when their wings were clipped in certain areas like exhaust blowing, oil burning, and wing flexing.

By contrast, we very often see with Ferrari that a technical directive or rule change wrecks their entire season. They become completely uncompetitive.

[tpe]

Slightly off topic, but I have start thinking that the "fule flow" saga is just what journalists said/whispered etc.
Why? Because the solution would be much simpler.

Add a second encrypted fuel flow, as they did and problem solved. You don't need any agreement. At the end of the day, FIA could not prove that the engine was using more fuel. All they proved was that the engine was using LESS flow (remember, they caught Ferrari with MORE fuel in the tank than they anticipated).

And to go and say "secret deal", it means it's something more important than a fuel flow sensor (that was an obvious path to explore anyway).

Anyway, we live in 2022, it's only 28 days until 31/12, so either within those 4 weeks we will see the nameS of Binoto's successorS, or we will know for sure that the team will be in big trouble.

[mzso]

I will be disappointed if they replace Binotto with someone junior or who has no track record of F1 success though. Better to promise from within (Cardile, Sanchez etc - and even Simone is really still part of the Ferrari family) if that’s the case.

Apparently you don't need to be experienced or even really familiar with F1 to be successful. See Briatore, he was leading a championship winning team twice. By the looks of it with pretty much the only skill (besides business) of finding talent and hiring the right people.

[mzso]

People overthink the settlement. Ferrari didn't agree to "nerf" themselves for 2 years as "punishment". No team would have done that. The reason they fell so far behind on the engine front is simple. They had to design an engine with a new concept from scratch. They had one winter to do it. If it was as simple as the fuel flow theory, they would have just used the same engine with less fuel. This technology goes beyond F1 and you can understand why Ferrari didn't want it out there.

It is as simple as the "fuel flow theory", but also that's the reason they needed to redesign the engine, to work optimally with less fuel.
Also, the freeze because of COVID screwed them a lot.

[jordanb]

I will be disappointed if they replace Binotto with someone junior or who has no track record of F1 success though. Better to promise from within (Cardile, Sanchez etc - and even Simone is really still part of the Ferrari family) if that’s the case.

Apparently you don't need to be experienced or even really familiar with F1 to be successful. See Briatore, he was leading a championship winning team twice. By the looks of it with pretty much the only skill (besides business) of finding talent and hiring the right people.

All this firing over the last 15 years hasn't exactly yielded anything. It's crazy why Fiat/Ferrari management resort to. If there is no stability, there would be no results either.

[FW17]

Results would not be there if the wrong person is the TP or TD and longer time with them will only benifit their rivals.

[jumpingfish]

A "bomb" engine

[saviour stivala]

In Italian it is the best way to express how powerful the engine will be. When reading other's comments many things out to be taken into consideration before temptations sets in to make fun of what was said.

[LM10]

Sadly, as long as other areas like the strategic decisions don't improve, even the engine of Saturn V won't help.

It's always nice to hear such promising things nonetheless, of course.

[aleks_ader]

I dont mind another Mclaren like 2005 season. In F1 is hard too achieve edge. SO in mine eyes its worth the risk.

TD should be succeed from within group. Or maybe Sassi if possible (last he was in Haas). Those people are familiar with system already. And plainly they are quite good. Maybe not sharp as RB or Merc in some aspects. But engineers like consistency and freedom. Ofc this is all surface level knowledge.

For TP role i think should become from outsider. IMO

Then after year of operation he could asses whole team totally unbiased. Binotto, was too nice for that role i think. TP must be a dick at times.

[Mansell89]

So is the engine essentially able to run at higher performance if they can sort out reliability? (As we can’t actually develop performance in an engine freeze)

Is that one of the things that held back performance in the second half of 2022 season?