2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Shal_Leg16]

Hope the first act as TP for Vasseur would be to announce Charles Leclerc will be Numero Uno and Carlos Sainz jr will be Rubens.

Team needs to clearly galvanize around one driver with development focused around that driver. Having a common development programme is a disaster. Naming number one in a team like ferrari which is solely focused on WDC is key to the success of the 2023 campaign and the foundation for future success.

This will be such a big disaster. Carlos is way to ambitious for the number 2 position.
With Leclerc installing his people all over the team I wouldn't be surprised if he is angling for an early exit already.

Why will it be a disaster ? and for whom ?

sainz fans to be specific act as if prioritizing a driver is something unheard of in F1, and as if its a crime. obviously they don't use exact word's but narrative is same. F1 is not a democratic equal rights level playing field game....faster / better driver will always have an advantage.

Last year as Ferrari totally surrendered in second half so this priority thing became completely useless but still with priority Leclerc would have got 50+ points more. had it been a close fight not setting the priority would have been one of the biggest reasons of losing the title. It actually improves a teams chance to win gold so obviously not a disaster for the Team.

For Sainz ? if you are not better than your teammate then by default you are the 2nd driver , either improve or accept it. Its not about sainz at all, tomorrow if sainz leaves and some wonder kid steps in and betters Charles he will have same treatment. either improve or accept.

[jordanb]

Hope the first act as TP for Vasseur would be to announce Charles Leclerc will be Numero Uno and Carlos Sainz jr will be Rubens.

Team needs to clearly galvanize around one driver with development focused around that driver. Having a common development programme is a disaster. Naming number one in a team like ferrari which is solely focused on WDC is key to the success of the 2023 campaign and the foundation for future success.

This will be such a big disaster. Carlos is way to ambitious for the number 2 position.
With Leclerc installing his people all over the team I wouldn't be surprised if he is angling for an early exit already.

If Carlos doesn't know he is No.2 by now, then he must be living in a fool's world. He simply isn't in Leclerc's category of skill and speed. He is a good driver, but not a No.1 material.

[AR3-GP]

Simone Resta to TD is great news.

[FW17]

Hope the first act as TP for Vasseur would be to announce Charles Leclerc will be Numero Uno and Carlos Sainz jr will be Rubens.

Team needs to clearly galvanize around one driver with development focused around that driver. Having a common development programme is a disaster. Naming number one in a team like ferrari which is solely focused on WDC is key to the success of the 2023 campaign and the foundation for future success.

This will be such a big disaster. Carlos is way to ambitious for the number 2 position.
With Leclerc installing his people all over the team I wouldn't be surprised if he is angling for an early exit already.

Why will it be a disaster ? and for whom ?

sainz fans to be specific act as if prioritizing a driver is something unheard of in F1, and as if its a crime. obviously they don't use exact word's but narrative is same. F1 is not a democratic equal rights level playing field game....faster / better driver will always have an advantage.

Last year as Ferrari totally surrendered in second half so this priority thing became completely useless but still with priority Leclerc would have got 50+ points more. had it been a close fight not setting the priority would have been one of the biggest reasons of losing the title. It actually improves a teams chance to win gold so obviously not a disaster for the Team.

For Sainz ? if you are not better than your teammate then by default you are the 2nd driver , either improve or accept it. Its not about sainz at all, tomorrow if sainz leaves and some wonder kid steps in and betters Charles he will have same treatment. either improve or accept.

Because of the TPs misplaced priorities of not letting Leclerc be the power center in the team, the technical team missed most of 2022 in fine tuning the car around Leclerc, something RBR did unapologetically for Max.

Ferrari and Leclerc will not be in the place they should be for start of next year to what they should have been because of the multiple development directions taken this year.

[tpe]

OK, so the father Ron Dennis came in.

Let's see if Resta will becomes the TD.

[F1NAC]

Also Ferrari should do everything in power to ensure people in technical departments stay.

[f1316]

Confidence about next year’s car: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10410196/

I do think Ferrari’s competitiveness will be entirely unchanged by TP changes - whether or not they’ll be competitive remains to be seen but it won’t meaningfully change because Binotto left.

Reasonable to expect Ferrari to be up there again. Who will be at the top right now depends mostly on Red Bull, it's their race to lose.

Regarding the 675, development pazh seems logical, keep the overall concept and refine it. We will wait quite some time to see how the floor has changed, but it's not unreasonable to expect it to be the only big change.

Also includes diffuser throat, reportedly costing half a second as per Dan Fallows.

Can you say more about this diffuser throat issue @jordanb?

@Vanja my expectation is that RB additional CFD/wind tunnel penalty (as well as having the least to start with) may have an impact. Curious to understand your thoughts though.

[Vanja #66]

@Vanja my expectation is that RB additional CFD/wind tunnel penalty (as well as having the least to start with) may have an impact. Curious to understand your thoughts though.

I can't see it having any significant impact at all, they are a very experienced, resourceful, motivated and cunning team. Any effect will be very, very limited and practically invisible to viewers. The bigger impact will be visibly faster development rate of Mercedes W14 than RB19 or Ferrari 675.

[AR3-GP]

@Vanja my expectation is that RB additional CFD/wind tunnel penalty (as well as having the least to start with) may have an impact. Curious to understand your thoughts though.

I can't see it having any significant impact at all, they are a very experienced, resourceful, motivated and cunning team. Any effect will be very, very limited and practically invisible to viewers. The bigger impact will be visibly faster development rate of Mercedes W14 than RB19 or Ferrari 675.

Why do you think that the W14 will be developed visibly faster than the F675 with only a 5% greater allocation, while RB19's 15%+ relative reduction (sorry I don't recall the exact figure), would have no effect?

[mzso]

Good luck to Vasseur, he'll need it. The biggest thing he needs to do regarding teams focus and strategies is to set a clear #1 driver and focus their 2023 campaign on him. I think all Tifosi have had enough equality shenanigans since 2017...

Maybe they just need to do their damn jobs right, instead of wasting time with first/second drivers.

[mzso]

This will be such a big disaster. Carlos is way to ambitious for the number 2 position.
With Leclerc installing his people all over the team I wouldn't be surprised if he is angling for an early exit already.

Why will it be a disaster ? and for whom ?

sainz fans to be specific act as if prioritizing a driver is something unheard of in F1, and as if its a crime. obviously they don't use exact word's but narrative is same. F1 is not a democratic equal rights level playing field game....faster / better driver will always have an advantage.

Last year as Ferrari totally surrendered in second half so this priority thing became completely useless but still with priority Leclerc would have got 50+ points more. had it been a close fight not setting the priority would have been one of the biggest reasons of losing the title. It actually improves a teams chance to win gold so obviously not a disaster for the Team.

For Sainz ? if you are not better than your teammate then by default you are the 2nd driver , either improve or accept it. Its not about sainz at all, tomorrow if sainz leaves and some wonder kid steps in and betters Charles he will have same treatment. either improve or accept.

Because of the TPs misplaced priorities of not letting Leclerc be the power center in the team, the technical team missed most of 2022 in fine tuning the car around Leclerc, something RBR did unapologetically for Max.

Ferrari and Leclerc will not be in the place they should be for start of next year to what they should have been because of the multiple development directions taken this year.

You guys have this. dilusion, that a good driver like Leclerc needs some special car designed for them. Not true, he just needs a competitive one.

[Vanja #66]

Why do you think that the W14 will be developed visibly faster than the F675 with only a 5% greater allocation, while RB19's 15%+ relative reduction (sorry I don't recall the exact figure), would have no effect?

W14 will be different in several ways to W13, while 675 will be mostly an evolution with gossip around somewhat different floor philosophy. RB19 will be a complete evolution of RB18 too. This gives room to W14 to make substantial early gains through changes that will be focus on substantial concept refinement with large changes and this will be clearly visible.

After all, W13 was dramatically changed already in Bahrain test compared to launch spec. Other than rear-wing changes, F1-75 stayed almost the same visually throughout the season, same with RB18.

[Big Tea]

Good luck to Vasseur, he'll need it. The biggest thing he needs to do regarding teams focus and strategies is to set a clear #1 driver and focus their 2023 campaign on him. I think all Tifosi have had enough equality shenanigans since 2017...

Maybe they just need to do their damn jobs right, instead of wasting time with first/second drivers.

Thats the way I see it. The driver in front is the first driver, until results need to be calculated.

[Shal_Leg16]

Why will it be a disaster ? and for whom ?

sainz fans to be specific act as if prioritizing a driver is something unheard of in F1, and as if its a crime. obviously they don't use exact word's but narrative is same. F1 is not a democratic equal rights level playing field game....faster / better driver will always have an advantage.

Last year as Ferrari totally surrendered in second half so this priority thing became completely useless but still with priority Leclerc would have got 50+ points more. had it been a close fight not setting the priority would have been one of the biggest reasons of losing the title. It actually improves a teams chance to win gold so obviously not a disaster for the Team.

For Sainz ? if you are not better than your teammate then by default you are the 2nd driver , either improve or accept it. Its not about sainz at all, tomorrow if sainz leaves and some wonder kid steps in and betters Charles he will have same treatment. either improve or accept.

Because of the TPs misplaced priorities of not letting Leclerc be the power center in the team, the technical team missed most of 2022 in fine tuning the car around Leclerc, something RBR did unapologetically for Max.

Ferrari and Leclerc will not be in the place they should be for start of next year to what they should have been because of the multiple development directions taken this year.

You guys have this. dilusion, that a good driver like Leclerc needs some special car designed for them. Not true, he just needs a competitive one.

Its not about him needing a car to perform. its about maximizing the performance.

He is human after all not a GOD that he wont have any ambiguities. if they trust him and work upon making that fast car even more suitable to his liking & driving style that's going to make them more faster. even that small fraction of second matters in F1.

[Shal_Leg16]

Good luck to Vasseur, he'll need it. The biggest thing he needs to do regarding teams focus and strategies is to set a clear #1 driver and focus their 2023 campaign on him. I think all Tifosi have had enough equality shenanigans since 2017...

Maybe they just need to do their damn jobs right, instead of wasting time with first/second drivers.

Thats the way I see it. The driver in front is the first driver, until results need to be calculated.

im not sure that's how it works in F1.

for eg. - RB asking Perez to let Max win Spanish Gp. now one might say at that point it was too early to set team orders but imagine a close season like 2021 where title was won by just 5 points. that's when even these early calls make difference. RB know how its done hence they dont waste time.