Toyota TF109

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Metar wrote:Pretty.


I do wonder, though: They probably only adjust the rear wing once or twice until they settle on the angle they'll use in qualifying and race... Wouldn't it make sense, aerodynamically, to block these holes that aren't used?
A little helocopter tapewill do the trick

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Exactly - but do they do it?

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maybe this answers your question
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ISLAMATRON wrote:
zgred wrote:Image
Wing endplate modification.
Looks like a high downforce modification for Monaco rather than an overall design shift... but we shall see
guess I was right
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anyone know how long those winglets/flow modifiers have been on the sidepod sheilds?(the little black ones) I'm just now started to pay attantion to the Toyota.

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ISLAMATRON wrote:Image

anyone know how long those winglets/flow modifiers have been on the sidepod sheilds?(the little black ones) I'm just now started to pay attantion to the Toyota.
They have been on the car since Shanghai. I'm more interested in what changes are going on at the rear end over there, wish we had better pics of the rear.

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changes such as? how long have those floor cut outs been there?

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ISLAMATRON wrote:Image

anyone know how long those winglets/flow modifiers have been on the sidepod sheilds?(the little black ones) I'm just now started to pay attantion to the Toyota.
The first time they were seen was China.
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ISLAMATRON wrote:changes such as? how long have those floor cut outs been there?
That would be one example, but I am sure Toyota has some other changes at the rear there. Could be some sort of flow/winglet changes, some mechanical changes, some bodywork changes, or some suspension changes.

As with every race, I'm also eager to look at rear-end close up views of the diffuser to see if they have changed or updated it. Last diffuser update for Toyota was Bahrain I believe.

The fact that we get so little pics of the TF109 rear end exposed without engine cover means we rarely see if any changes are going on there.

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Heh, dude sleeping in the cockpit.

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New rear wing endplates:

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Pretty nifty.
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Just noticed those new front brake ducts are using a similar idea to McLaren, with a shield or vane for separating airflow.

Looking at pictures of the diffuser from Bahrain (as I could not find any good Monaco pics of the diffuser) Toyota it seems has made some changes.

Bahrain:

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Looking closely at this pic below, the edges on the diffuser are a different thickness and it seems a different shape. Now I really want to get a view of that rear end. My guess is the changes were made to optimize the interaction of air coming off the diffuser directly at the innovative rear endplates.

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This might sound crazy, but those end plates could serve to frig up anyone following behind; this could be the advent of defensive aerodynamics.
Just imagine a car barreling down behind this, trying to duck under at turn 12 on the Turkey track, instant loss of grip due to very bad air hence lock up and off road trip :twisted: ... Orrr the endplates could simply serve to assist the diffuser. :lol:
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They look like they help the difuser but will make the air "dirtier" :?