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reliable?? But 3 tenths from the engine would be a nice welcome
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I'm going to go with black, and by that I mean 90% of the car will be unpainted bare carbonF1Krof wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 10:00My prediction is that they're going 'Bold High Contrast' color retro design.zeroday wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 22:14Another day, another livery color tease by Merc.
I do enjoy them though
https://i.imgur.com/Jf3SCQ5.jpg
Ahh yes, black. Always iconic when teams use it, which includes bare carbon! I always wondered why all teams just dont go bare carbon to drop unnecessary weight while leaving on the sponsor stickers. Seems way more efficient. Ok sure Ferrari is "unlucky" to be identified with all red, but tbh if winning is more important, then f--- red, f-- the fans...i wanna win by any (legal) means -- one gram at a time.ajprice wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 13:46I'm going to go with black, and by that I mean 90% of the car will be unpainted bare carbonF1Krof wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 10:00My prediction is that they're going 'Bold High Contrast' color retro design.zeroday wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 22:14Another day, another livery color tease by Merc.
I do enjoy them though
https://i.imgur.com/Jf3SCQ5.jpg
Completely agree, and i can't imagine, at least without bargeboards, a solution for managing the front wheel wake anywhere near as well as with the flowfield that larger sidepods create. It will always be a poor compromise in that regard. Also something like the "outer flank" solution. This would certainly improve it a bit, but ultimately even this solution would be inferior to "big" sidepods in this regard, as the effect would reach less far downstream.carisi2k wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 04:06It won't work because the air just tumbles uncontrollably without barge boards. The sidepods could be made small before because the barge boards cleaned up and adjusted the flow. With barge boards banned this control has to be done by the sidepod and this is where the small pod fails. It can't do the controlling of the air like the other sidepods Not only that but I suspect the mid wings actually makes things worse.ringo wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 00:27As for the 80s design. I am imagine the current zeropod, but a more rectangular and sloped outer edge.
Basically the two concepts I am suggest have that outer flank to push the air wide, similar to what the big pods are doing on the other cars.
As for the midwing, it will not be needed with the above designs. Just visualize it in your mind. That midwing is there because of the downward slope of the current zeropod. Or if you can do a modification to your current zero pod model, see for yourself.
It's not impossible at all.
they did say that couldn't believe how the engine didn't break when they saw how much it got hit by the boucning, but every team runs the engine at best they can, no way you can gain that much unless you do a miracledjones wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 16:27It's not impossible at all.
It could be the engine was having to run detuned all season because of a reliability issue. In that scenario, if there is a reliability improvement it could open up performance.
With so many technical problems all season, to compound their problems by running the engine to its optimal allowable level, would have only exacerbated their problems and made it even harder to narrow down the root causes. Logically, when porpoising and seeing their engine "throwing off bits" due to the banging, it would make more sense to tune down the car until the problems are well understood and fixed. Just common sense really.Venturiation wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 16:32they did say that couldn't believe how the engine didn't break when they saw how much it got hit by the boucning, but every team runs the engine at best they can, no way you can gain that much unless you do a miracle
zeroday wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 16:51With so many technical problems all season, to compound their problems by running the engine to its optimal allowable level, would have only exacerbated their problems and made it even harder to narrow down the root causes. Logically, when porpoising and seeing their engine "throwing off bits" due to the banging, it would make more sense to tune down the car until the problems are well understood and fixed. Just common sense really.Venturiation wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 16:32they did say that couldn't believe how the engine didn't break when they saw how much it got hit by the boucning, but every team runs the engine at best they can, no way you can gain that much unless you do a miracle
Car needs to ride low and have small wings.. in spain the car showed what the simulator is saying..they where the fastest on the straights.. but Lewis said the car is still 1sec slower than it shouldVenturiation wrote: ↑13 Feb 2023, 15:54So there is alot of downsides in the zeopods design but what did mercedes engineers find in it that made them want it?
Remember that this is a team of 100+ engineers working on this and each one has tought of the downsides that we are talking about
but there has to be a reason that they want to keep it
Mercedes said that they explored the other teams design ( ferrari and redbull) and binotto said the same about merc but it was hard to make it work