Ferrari SF23

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It's quite clear that Ferrari saw excellent data from wind tunnel, simulator and dyno (for the engine).

Now the question if everything will be confirmed when they put the car on track and how much RB and MB improved. The amount of changes compared to last year is huge.

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Interesting piece by Duchessa, he talks of a new rear suspension (multi-link).
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... pale.shtml

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Giando
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fantasy... or reality?

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Venturiation
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Giando wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 16:54
fantasy... or reality?

https://postimg.cc/3WXK6h49
Reality, maybe not exactly

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All Video Ferrari
all the interviews in one video


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Giando
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Venturiation wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 17:04
Giando wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 16:54
fantasy... or reality?

https://postimg.cc/3WXK6h49
Reality, maybe not exactly
Yes of course, my attempt can't be anywhere near accurate... but you got the idea! Let's see :D

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Vanja #66 wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 15:05
Sevach wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 14:56
https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/14/fer ... -2023-car/
Enrico Cardile, head of chassis:
"In aero, we increased vertical downforce, to adapt to the new aero regulations and achieve the desired balance."
I think this is the first statement on downforce improvement in spite of regulation change from any team member, of any team. Some theorized this is possible, but is now confirmed. I expect other teams achieved this as well.
I believe Christian Horner implied this in his interview 2 or 3 weeks ago.
A lion must kill its prey.

Ozan
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how can they run that front wing with those flow winglets on top? I thought they were blocked by FIA

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Ozan wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 17:33
how can they run that front wing with those flow winglets on top? I thought they were blocked by FIA
They are legal in 2023

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nico5
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Also interesting is the double cutout in the diffuser wall, don't remember seeing two on other cars last year

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Juzh wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 15:46
It was to be expected in second year of major rule overhaul, I predict all cars to be faster than last year. 2018 cars were vastly faster than 2017 ones despite some rather major adjustments to rules that had detrimental effect of performance, not least adding an anchor like entity right on top of f1 cars (halo :-D ).

Maybe development scope is narrower nowadays, but it's still not gonna stop engineers to claw back lost performance and some more.
I honestly expected all teams would be getting quite close to peak performance last year, but obviously they didn't. I'm glad for the progress and somehow I feel like the floor changes wouldn't have affected theoretical peak performance, as it would lead to too much bouncing. Just a feeling.

Blackout wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 15:24
Alpine too :mrgreen:
AR3-GP wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 17:32
I believe Christian Horner implied this in his interview 2 or 3 weeks ago.
Thanks, I stand corrected :)
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Goblin42 wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 14:54
That's one hella ugly looking SIS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
Better than creating a bump on the floor, I suppose. Flow in this area is higher energy, so will not be disturbed as much as around a bump on the diffusing area of top of the floor.

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Venturiation wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 17:35
Ozan wrote:
14 Feb 2023, 17:33
how can they run that front wing with those flow winglets on top? I thought they were blocked by FIA
They are legal in 2023
Are they? I’m sure their main purpose was to outwash air from the front wing, which goes against the spirit of the rules.

I imagine if they run them, there will be protests.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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In the 2023 regulations 3.9.8 on page 29 has been heavily revised:

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The "primarily" part is gone in the latest issue 4 from the 7th of December 2022, issue 3 (mid October 22) still had the old wording.