General Honda F1 Topic

[Mr Brooksy]

Having read this article, I'm not so sure Honda could supply a PU at the same kind of performance level as the rest...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-re ... r-f1-2026/

It sounds awfully like Honda have to almost rebuild from scratch... Which team would want to get into bed with a PU provider in these circumstances? Honda would need to get a move on to rebuild and be ready for '26! And would they be committed enough past that date?

[Watto]

Having read this article, I'm not so sure Honda could supply a PU at the same kind of performance level as the rest...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-re ... r-f1-2026/

It sounds awfully like Honda have to almost rebuild from scratch... Which team would want to get into bed with a PU provider in these circumstances? Honda would need to get a move on to rebuild and be ready for '26! And would they be committed enough past that date?

Reading a few articles from the Race think they seem to indicate it was RBR or nothing for Honda. Just could they agree on terms

[Bill]

Having read this article, I'm not so sure Honda could supply a PU at the same kind of performance level as the rest...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-re ... r-f1-2026/

It sounds awfully like Honda have to almost rebuild from scratch... Which team would want to get into bed with a PU provider in these circumstances? Honda would need to get a move on to rebuild and be ready for '26! And would they be committed enough past that date?

these is just the typical nonsense that we got accustomed to as far as i know the Honda pu is built exclusively in japan ,the uk site was used for calibration and software fine tuning and some mguk works the extent to which i dont know.to say that Honda wouldn't be successful because some few staff from uk got lost is silly.Honda always build the best engine in motorsport if they give it time.the mguh which is the most complex part has been dropped so next gen pu will not be that much of a challenge.

[etusch]

Having read this article, I'm not so sure Honda could supply a PU at the same kind of performance level as the rest...

https://the-race.com/formula-1/where-re ... r-f1-2026/

It sounds awfully like Honda have to almost rebuild from scratch... Which team would want to get into bed with a PU provider in these circumstances? Honda would need to get a move on to rebuild and be ready for '26! And would they be committed enough past that date?

If Honda can not do, others also can not do. If Honda start from scratch, others also start from scratch. so still honda is ahead.
Maybe you think that it is like Honda's 2008 leave when there is only ice. then a era there was kers which honda wasn't in f1. then when Honda came in f1 for turbo hybrid era they came without kers experience.
2026 situation is not same. Now it is from more complicated engine to less complicated engine. If they made best combustion when producing same level of power with rivals while having best mgu-h
regain, when they drop mgu-h gain concerns they can run ice at most efficient way and can produce more ice power.
they will just use bigger mgu-k and bigger battery. Compared to what they achieved in current formula, it is easier for them to live in 2026 formula. That was the formula ford, porsche or audi will not consider to enter formula 1.
yes it is a nightmare still there for haters.

[restless]

Whats the point of supplying engine to Williams and finishing last?
Marketing benefit?
Whatever the engine does, if they go from champion car to last it will be bad for the image.

[Bill]

Whats the point of supplying engine to Williams and finishing last?
Marketing benefit?
Whatever the engine does, if they go from champion car to last it will be bad for the image.

You make it like williams are doomed to be backmarkers for ever.minardi was a backmarker then red bull bought them and won a race with seb and Gasly as torro rosso.if you put money and talent into a team you can turn it into anything.

[Big Tea]

Whats the point of supplying engine to Williams and finishing last?
Marketing benefit?
Whatever the engine does, if they go from champion car to last it will be bad for the image.

But will they be last the year after?
A new engine supplier in a low level team will of course struggle. But they know where they need to be, and probably what they need to do to get there. With the backing of a company like Honda, and with the budget cap, the availability of good engineers, they should consider Blue Origin's motto, "gradatim ferociter," ( step by step, ferociously.)

Not much is a winner out of the box, but there is plenty of scope to improve

[JordanMugen]

You make it like williams are doomed to be backmarkers for ever.minardi was a backmarker then red bull bought them and won a race with seb and Gasly as torro rosso.if you put money and talent into a team you can turn it into anything.

Honda managed to turn a top 5 team into a backmarker in just one season by putting motorcycle engineer Nakamoto-san as Technical Director. Granted Nakamoto-san had been working in F1 for five seasons, but he did understand the aerodynamics of a Formula One car as well as previous technical director Geoff Willis who had continually produced solid, if not dominant, cars for Williams and BAR?


[This is the RA107 in Championship White paint instead of that awful globe livery. ]

Thankfully the 2009 car developed with Ross Brawn and a huge budget would have been a great car, but oh well it was not to be.

[Bill]

Honda Will be supplying pu to williams like what they are doing now with redbull or mclaren who they were giving money to .so they won't be owning team ,i don't think they have an appetite for that.

[FW17]

Since Honda and Williams are in the same sentence, Honda Williams for 2024

[JordanMugen]

RedBull was once Ford Jaguar which was once Stuart Racing bankrolled by Ford... so it's come full circle now.

I am hearing, next up is BAR Honda!

behave

The rumour that Honda would repurchase, an admittedly James Vowles-less BAR Mercedes team is perfectly reasonable!

[Wouter]

Japanese head of F1 project leaves Honda

09:04, Today

Honda's future in Formula 1 remains uncertain. Although the Japanese car brand has held exploratory talks with McLaren, it is extremely unclear whether Honda can be found on the F1 grid after 2025.
In any case, Yasuaki Asaki, the head of the F1 project, will not be there then.

Asaki has announced his departure from Honda, the company said in a press release in Japan. Asaki is retiring.
A replacement has already been found by the carmaker. His name is Ikuo Takeishi.

Asaki was involved in first the Honda adventure with McLaren, and later with the Red Bull teams. Under his leadership, Honda managed to transform from the worst power united to the strongest on the grid. Nevertheless, Honda decided to kiss Formula 1 goodbye at the end of 2021, although they continued to supply power units to Red Bull Racing and AlphaTauri.

The Japanese returned to their departure after a change at the top of the group during 2022. Meanwhile, Honda has expressed its intention to remain active in Formula 1 from 2026 as well, although it is unclear with which team a collaboration is possible.

Asaki-san, Head of Power Unit Development

[Eryngii]

[Zynerji]

Honda buys Alpha Tauri and even keeps the branding and Tost. EzPz.

[Big Tea]

Honda buys Alpha Tauri and even keeps the branding and Tost. EzPz.

It has to be AT or Williams. Everything else will take too long to get moving for them.

'Back in the day' they could have started with new engine/car setup and tested as they developed, or even got a company like Dallara to build a car for them, but the rules now would not allow it, and the way things are, they would probably not get an entry anyway