Red Bull RB19

A place to discuss the characteristics of the cars in Formula One, both current as well as historical. Laptimes, driver worshipping and team chatter do not belong here.
SmallSoldier
SmallSoldier
479
Joined: 10 Mar 2019, 03:54

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

Front wing details:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Vía: @Yuyujiteki

TimW
TimW
36
Joined: 01 Aug 2019, 19:07

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

yinlad wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 20:31
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:56
MV8 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:46


Could you share?
Might have to go back on myself
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqPfnZXsAA ... name=large
From this picture the 'slot' has a different shape to the previous image. It could still be a slot that could look different based on the angle, but I would find it more likely to be a shadow due to that
Pretty clear to see there's no slot on the left hand side of the diffuser. This is an absolute red herring
The two sections are offset and because of the view angle to the left side of the diffuser they overlap. But if you zoom in on the brightened image you can see a transition.

myurr
myurr
9
Joined: 20 Mar 2008, 21:58

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

I don't think it's a slot. It's an extra vane on the outside of the wall of the diffuser.

myurr
myurr
9
Joined: 20 Mar 2008, 21:58

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

Actually I take that back, perhaps it is a slot...

User avatar
aleks_ader
90
Joined: 28 Jul 2011, 08:40

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

Guys its just reflection of tire on shiny clear coated surface.
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

BlueCheetah66
BlueCheetah66
33
Joined: 13 Jul 2021, 20:23

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

If we are being completely honest, we can't really say with any certainty what it is. I think its just a reflection, however there is not a clear picture with enough angles to say for sure either way.

If it was there, it would need to be done in a way that there would still only be one section if intersected in the Y-Plane, which should be possible.

It would also have to be 'tangent continuous' which if I'm being honest, I don't know the meaning of. If someone could explain it I would greatly appreciate it.

mzso
mzso
65
Joined: 05 Apr 2014, 14:52

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

yinlad wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 20:31
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:56
MV8 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:46


Could you share?
Might have to go back on myself
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpqPfnZXsAA ... name=large
From this picture the 'slot' has a different shape to the previous image. It could still be a slot that could look different based on the angle, but I would find it more likely to be a shadow due to that
Pretty clear to see there's no slot on the left hand side of the diffuser. This is an absolute red herring
I think faintly you can also see the bend that produces the shadow on the other side.

TimW
TimW
36
Joined: 01 Aug 2019, 19:07

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 16:37
kediown wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 15:29
There is a vertical slit in the diffuser of RB19 . I think it's to increase the efficiency of the diffuser.
https://i.imgur.com/fFPHPTC.jpg
This shot has different lighting but it appears exactly the same.

myurr
myurr
9
Joined: 20 Mar 2008, 21:58

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

I'm pretty sure it's an overlapping slot, so viewed directly from the side you wouldn't see the hole.

zioture
zioture
549
Joined: 12 Feb 2013, 12:46
Location: Italy

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post


User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

GrizzleBoy wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 12:35
Diffuser getting lots of flow from the upper bodywork through the mouse hole it seems
It's getting flow from the undercut as well via underneath the front sidepod openings.
To me, it appears as if the diffuser is being blown by the front undercut flow where some of it accelerates to the side undercut.
Why I say this is that side undercut leads straight into the mouse hole. They have made sure that surface from undercut to mouse hole is basically a vertical slab, no undercutting and that slab is higher than the mouse hole. So that flow is basically rammed through the mouse hole; in effect blowing the diffuser.
I promise you this is not aero mumbo jumbo. Just trying my best to describe what I think is happening without pictures.

Image
Last edited by ringo on 24 Feb 2023, 02:21, edited 1 time in total.
For Sure!!

User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

BlueCheetah66 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:27
I thought it was a shadow at first but I've now seen several photos with it present from different angles so it likely is there
Could be a gurney flap as well.
For Sure!!

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

ringo wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:21
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:27
I thought it was a shadow at first but I've now seen several photos with it present from different angles so it likely is there
Could be a gurney flap as well.
The position doesn't make sense for it to be a gurney.
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:22
ringo wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:21
BlueCheetah66 wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 19:27
I thought it was a shadow at first but I've now seen several photos with it present from different angles so it likely is there
Could be a gurney flap as well.
The position doesn't make sense for it to be a gurney.
That's based on what you understand the classical gurney to be. But you do not know what they are trying to do.
It doesn't look like a hole to me.
It can simply be a gurney used as a turbulator.
For Sure!!

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Red Bull RB19

Post

ringo wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:24
AR3-GP wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:22
ringo wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 02:21


Could be a gurney flap as well.
The position doesn't make sense for it to be a gurney.
That's based on what you understand the classical gurney to be. But you do not know what they are trying to do.
It doesn't look like a hole to me.
It can simply be a gurney used as a turbulator.
Interesting! I googled this "turbulator" and you might be on to something.
A lion must kill its prey.