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Don't think I've seen this one here:

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@organic:

Interestingly, the rear wing of the RB19 does not appear to be entirely new:

While it is not a carbon copy of last season, it does look incredibly similar. The spoon seems to be softer edged this season? It's a very subtle change.

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The 23 wing is also a bit flatter.

The perspective in the picture is near perfect the same. The intersection with the airbox is identical, but in the 23 picture the spoon is less deep. Look at the bodywork shoulders. Below the airbox behind the halo. In the 22 pic it "touches" the bodywork, in the 23 you can see the background between them.

RB is runningles wing in the font too. Look at how backed off the FW is.

AM has reduce the FW area a lot. RB did that only a bit. My guess is that the "flexiflaps" are still usefull.

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AR3-GP wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 07:53
@organic:

Interestingly, the rear wing of the RB19 does not appear to be entirely new:

While it is not a carbon copy of last season, it does look incredibly similar. The spoon seems to be softer edged this season? It's a very subtle change.

https://cdn.racingnews365.com/_975xAUTO ... 1677177564
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Vía: Motorsport.com

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RB19 under the skin:

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A lot of unused volume towards the inboard side of the sidepod.. way they've packaged suggests to me they'll have a waterslide at some point

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organic wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 13:17
A lot of unused volume towards the inboard side of the sidepod.. way they've packaged suggests to me they'll have a waterslide at some point
Probably not bc of the radiator's angle. RB's are designed to allow for the undercut tunnel underneath the sidepod wall, AM's probably go all the way down to the floor at a steeper angle

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organic wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 13:17
A lot of unused volume towards the inboard side of the sidepod.. way they've packaged suggests to me they'll have a waterslide at some point
That would be a natural evolution in my view
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Some new angles of the RB19 floor edge wing

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organic wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 14:01
Some new angles of the RB19 floor edge wing

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FputrDtXgAI ... name=large
This interpretation is a very, very clever interpretation of the rules.

They previously had a gurney there, which is a very limited device that does its trick with a lot of losses and deminishing of the cleanliness of the vortex created. They used the same trick they pioneered in '22 to get a secondary indented element (see kyles 22 analysis of the rb18), but folded and twisted the allowed single edge wing in such a way they have a "tulip" of numerous stacked elements to really smoothly roll up a massive vortex with full control and maximum vortex power. It looks like the indent at the rear of the sidepod is there to further shape and energise the vortex.
Looking at that flowvis is a thing of beauty. You can really see how that spiral of high energy air folds around the sidepod.

Speculating a bit it looks like they virtually "widen" the effect of the sidepod, pushing the front wheel wake out halfway of the sidepod, and after that they curl the high energy air back just in time to feed the diffuser wall, smashing the wake against the wheel without losing/using any of the precious highly energised air.

I'd imagine that floor vortex is very clean, powerful and cultivated as opposed to some more brute force approaches seen.

These large kicks seen on the MB and MCL just kick a big vortex up and after that it looks far less controlled and messy. It will at least be far more sensitive to wind and yaw.
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Nicolas Carpentiers 📸

Might've been moved to take advantage of the slot below the sharkfin

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