AlphaTauri AT04

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Goblin42 wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 02:28
is this porpoising or bumps on track ?
Ground effect aero will always have some form of bouncing. I don't expect any car to completely eliminate it.

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Henk_v
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Very ill fitting bodywork and a lot of screws. Looks like a rushjob, or this set of body panels was not worth getting 100% as they'll race something different.

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Very RB18 front suspension layout
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Blackout wrote:
22 Feb 2023, 20:43
Very RB18 front suspension layout
https://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/pho ... ev/022.jpg
Indeed. As much as they could with the push rod

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The AT04 ready for testing:


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Everybody is sure buzzing about this team.... #-o

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Are they having separation before the air gets to their floor edge wing?

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organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 14:37
https://i.imgur.com/GKkBCPM.png

https://i.imgur.com/lqu6SQi.png

https://i.imgur.com/win7AqK.png

Are they having separation before the air gets to their floor edge wing?
No I don’t think that’s separation. The floor edge wing will affect the air upstream as it’s showing right there. Without CFD it’s hard to see if that’s intended. They might be turning the air to induce vorticity

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 15:10
organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 14:37
https://i.imgur.com/GKkBCPM.png

https://i.imgur.com/lqu6SQi.png

https://i.imgur.com/win7AqK.png

Are they having separation before the air gets to their floor edge wing?
No I don’t think that’s separation. The floor edge wing will affect the air upstream as it’s showing right there. Without CFD it’s hard to see if that’s intended. They might be turning the air to induce vorticity
That makes more sense to me

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What is causing so much downwash on the side of the sidepod?

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organic wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 14:43
https://i.imgur.com/AATbWRs.png

What is causing so much downwash on the side of the sidepod?
My guess is that there is a region of low pressure around the sidepod undercut (due to the curved geometry, think an airfoil surface turned on it's side). The air around the side of the upper sidepod is being sucked down into this lower pressure region.

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organic wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 14:43
https://i.imgur.com/AATbWRs.png

What is causing so much downwash on the side of the sidepod?
look at the top of the mirror cover

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organic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 14:37
https://i.imgur.com/GKkBCPM.png

https://i.imgur.com/lqu6SQi.png

https://i.imgur.com/win7AqK.png

Are they having separation before the air gets to their floor edge wing?
Someone should tell all those Predators in invisible mode to look left and right before crossing the street.