2023 Pre-Season Testing - Bahrain International Circuit, Feb 23 - 25

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AMuS say Pirelli have said the C5 is 5 tenths quicker than the C4

So you can use that figure to adjust laptimes perhaps

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-2022 Bahrain GP pole: 1.30.558
-Testing best lap right now: 1.30.305

Tasty!

That's sweet !
Only 3yrs ago pole was 1:27.2 .. so we have some way to go.

It is amazing that they are so fast after some small regulation changes made which are expected to slow down cars. Despite these , they are still bring more performance.
Consider this is Perez's lap time who is quite behind of Verstappen in this front and consider that there is possibility that even Perez can go faster than this time with full performance of car and engine when Q3 came. I expect a pole lap around 1.29.xxx

[F1doc]

They do what F1 ask them, energy and cost saving is more behind the reasons to create tyres that don’t require blankets

The energy saving is negligible or offset by the fuel needed to run the car round longer for more warm up laps and get the tyres to a working range in order to set a flying lap.

That's why Pirelli is asked to do a compound that warms up faster as the blankets are going to be banned

Pirelli haven't hit their brief, and it'll be hard to overcome the engineering mountain to get rubber to warm up quickly, not overheat, offer performance and wear life sufficiently for racing. The warmup phase is an issue.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/25/dan ... -hamilton/

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[jumpingfish]

Interesting visualisation, thank you

[Juzh]

and here is perez v ham v lec

[Redragon]

The energy saving is negligible or offset by the fuel needed to run the car round longer for more warm up laps and get the tyres to a working range in order to set a flying lap.

That's why Pirelli is asked to do a compound that warms up faster as the blankets are going to be banned

Pirelli haven't hit their brief, and it'll be hard to overcome the engineering mountain to get rubber to warm up quickly, not overheat, offer performance and wear life sufficiently for racing. The warmup phase is an issue.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/25/dan ... -hamilton/

I am not against the blankets, it is where the F1 is heading so Pirelli are doing what it is told. That's what my point was.

It is not Pirelli building a rubbish compound is F1 who is making them. They still have time so maybe they come with the solution.

Surprise Hamilton is not behind it after gaslighting about climate change and what you should do to improve it while flying on private jets, racing on a F1, etc....

Even F1 probably has not much to do behind the decision as EU has the law to target net zero, so if F1 is not a net zero sport could be banned on racing on EU territory, sounds ridiculous but it is where we are heading.

[bagajohny]

Anyone got the link to full interview of Pat Symonds?

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Anyone got the link to full interview of Pat Symonds?

He was in the commentary box for a while on day 3 but I found this link for when he was talking to Ted, more about testing. When he was in the box it was crofty, ant asking him questions and talked about sustainable fuels mostly.

[Bill]

The new regulation were supposed to bring the field closer,they have been a decimal failure in that regard .they should have left 2021 cars alone at least will still be having Max and and Lewis squabbling for positions.people want fights lewis vs alonso.max vs lewis ,senna vs prost .those are the things people remember rather than abstract concept like increase in the number of overtakes.overtake need to be genuine not drs assisted nonsense.

[nico5]

That's why Pirelli is asked to do a compound that warms up faster as the blankets are going to be banned

Pirelli haven't hit their brief, and it'll be hard to overcome the engineering mountain to get rubber to warm up quickly, not overheat, offer performance and wear life sufficiently for racing. The warmup phase is an issue.

https://www.racefans.net/2023/02/25/dan ... -hamilton/

I am not against the blankets, it is where the F1 is heading so Pirelli are doing what it is told. That's what my point was.

It is not Pirelli building a rubbish compound is F1 who is making them. They still have time so maybe they come with the solution.

Surprise Hamilton is not behind it after gaslighting about climate change and what you should do to improve it while flying on private jets, racing on a F1, etc....

Even F1 probably has not much to do behind the decision as EU has the law to target net zero, so if F1 is not a net zero sport could be banned on racing on EU territory, sounds ridiculous but it is where we are heading.

Are we really talking tyre blankets when we have a Jeddah-break-Australia-break-Baku-break-Miami-Europe-Canada-Europe calendar? Also there's a ton of ways you can limit the use of blankets, say: 2-3 sets max per team use it as you want for no more than 60 min. Is that gonna kill the world as much as weekly 8000km flights for freight, staff and fans?

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The new regulation were supposed to bring the field closer,they have been a decimal failure in that regard .they should have left 2021 cars alone at least will still be having Max and and Lewis squabbling for positions.people want fights lewis vs alonso.max vs lewis ,senna vs prost .those are the things people remember rather than abstract concept like increase in the number of overtakes.overtake need to be genuine not drs assisted nonsense.

While I agree with it, but they are definitely not as big a failure as the 2014s were. There is always a risk in the new regulations of a team getting a leg up. 2014s were unlike anything seen before or after so far. If it's not for mid season nerfing, Ferrari would still be a contender for the whole of last year. Mercedes making absolute disasters cannot be the fault of regulations. They are probably more constrained by budget cap than technical regulations. While Red Bull seems to have nailed it, Ferrari hasn't been far off. These regulations have made close racing possible, which was the primary aim. With exception of Max running away, rest of the field has great racing going on, thanks to the new regulations.

[Juzh]

The new regulation were supposed to bring the field closer,they have been a decimal failure in that regard .they should have left 2021 cars alone at least will still be having Max and and Lewis squabbling for positions.people want fights lewis vs alonso.max vs lewis ,senna vs prost .those are the things people remember rather than abstract concept like increase in the number of overtakes.overtake need to be genuine not drs assisted nonsense.

While I agree with it, but they are definitely not as big a failure as the 2014s were. There is always a risk in the new regulations of a team getting a leg up. 2014s were unlike anything seen before or after so far.

Yes, but this doesn't concern him because he's rooting for mercedes probably. Rules are only a failure when his team isn't winning, and they are a failure even more because RB of all teams is better than his favourite team (so far).

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Some fast onboard laps were released by f1. im not sure what their selection process was as some laps are just taken at random it seems.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 87368.html

[f1jcw]

The new regulation were supposed to bring the field closer,they have been a decimal failure in that regard .they should have left 2021 cars alone at least will still be having Max and and Lewis squabbling for positions.people want fights lewis vs alonso.max vs lewis ,senna vs prost .those are the things people remember rather than abstract concept like increase in the number of overtakes.overtake need to be genuine not drs assisted nonsense.

While I agree with it, but they are definitely not as big a failure as the 2014s were. There is always a risk in the new regulations of a team getting a leg up. 2014s were unlike anything seen before or after so far.

Yes, but this doesn't concern him because he's rooting for mercedes probably. Rules are only a failure when his team isn't winning, and they are a failure even more because RB of all teams is better than his favourite team (so far).

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Some fast onboard laps were released by f1. im not sure what their selection process was as some laps are just taken at random it seems.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 87368.html

That stands for everyone, not just bill, as the previous poster mentioned that 2014 rule changes.

[langedweil]

-2022 Bahrain GP pole: 1.30.558
-Testing best lap right now: 1.30.305

Tasty!

That's sweet !
Only 3yrs ago pole was 1:27.2 .. so we have some way to go.

It is amazing that they are so fast after some small regulation changes made which are expected to slow down cars. Despite these , they are still bring more performance.
Consider this is Perez's lap time who is quite behind of Verstappen in this front and consider that there is possibility that even Perez can go faster than this time with full performance of car and engine when Q3 came. I expect a pole lap around 1.29.xxx

True that, although we have to consider the C4 won't be around next weekend, but still .. a 1.29 seems feasible.