Most heavily developed car in 2009

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Most heavily developed car in 2009

Mc Laren MP4/24
10
13%
Ferrari F60
23
30%
Toyota TF109
5
6%
Renault R29
5
6%
BMW F1.09
15
19%
Brawn BGP001
8
10%
Red Bull RB5
4
5%
Williams FW31
3
4%
Toro Rosso STR4
0
No votes
Force India VJ02
4
5%
 
Total votes: 77

bar555
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Most heavily developed car in 2009

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Here you can vote for the most heavily developed car in 2009 season

Front & rear wings , suspensions , brakes , diffuser and every new mechanical or aero elements are all included in the development rate of a F1 car

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PS3 = Take in mind that development does not always mean direct improvement in car's performance
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gridwalker
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Re: Most heavily developed car in 2009

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I'll go for the Merc, the Beemer and those damned red cars ...

They've already had to rebuild their cars pretty much from scratch so far this season ;)
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Steven
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I went for Renault, mostly related to the number of updates they have brought in the races so far. At nearly every single race there were new bits. The team was also quick to fix a double deck diffuser to its car.
Additionally they have a major upgrade package scheduled for Silverstone too.

Arguably it hasn't brought as much as they had hoped for, but the other teams are obviously also progressing.

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Callum
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Joined: 18 Jan 2009, 15:03
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I went for ferrari because i think they basically made a new tub (10-15kg ligher)/new rear end/ new DDD and i think it's made a good difference to their performance.

roost89
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First choice was Merc, then BMW and then Ferrari.
Mercs improvements seem to be the most in number. Most of them have given a small amount of time.
BMW's second most developed, it got some points in Turkey, so I think they've got somewhere.
Most improved car out of the 3 is Ferrari, I'd say.
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ESPImperium
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Id say that the BMW F1.09, Ferrari F60 and Force India VJM02 have been the most developed, however the Toyota FT109 and McLaren-Mercedes MP4/24 are next to it. The Renault R29 is probably next to that, but more mechanically developed than any other.

The Red Bull RB5/Toro Rosso STR4 are next, then the Williams FW31 and the next. The Brawn BGP001 is the least developed, but in essencially launch form, its still the quickest.

vasia
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Well if we are talking strictly about development, and not about results or exterior appearance, my vote would go to the Ferrari F60, McLaren MP4-24, and the Toyota TF109 in that order. After that I would say the Renault R29 and Force India VJM02.

The number of changes Ferrari and McLaren have gone through is somewhat obvious and well documented, and it makes sense seeing as they have incredible development abilities. Toyota's development is a bit less documented, and harder to spot but they've done quite a bit since launch. They've updated their front and rear wings several times, updated their sidepod shields, updated their diffuser 3 or 4 times already, and made the rear end bodywork much tighter for better airflow. They have slightly reshaped the car's front nose, although it's hard to tell just at a glance. Toyota has also had some suspension upgrades. Out of all the teams, Toyota has developed their diffuser the most. Even though they originally launched with a DDD, since then their diffuser has gone through major changes.

The Renault and Force India developments are also fairly well documented.

I would agree the Brawn BGP001 has been one of the least developed cars, but I think the least developed car in the entire field is probably the Toro Rosso.

bhall
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Tomba wrote:I went for Renault, mostly related to the number of updates they have brought in the races so far. At nearly every single race there were new bits. The team was also quick to fix a double deck diffuser to its car...
I'm not so sure about that.

BreezyRacer
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Maybe you should clarify .. once the season started. Otherwise it's pretty clear that the Brawn is the most heavily developed car. They haven't had to throw any band aids at it yet .. I guess you say the same for Red Bull except for the double decker diffuser issue. And actually RB did inquire about that .. they were just told wrong.

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PlatinumZealot
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Somebody has to count up the updates and try to weigh each update to see which car is the most developed. :wink:
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vasia
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BreezyRacer wrote:Maybe you should clarify .. once the season started. Otherwise it's pretty clear that the Brawn is the most heavily developed car. They haven't had to throw any band aids at it yet .. I guess you say the same for Red Bull except for the double decker diffuser issue. And actually RB did inquire about that .. they were just told wrong.
I think it's assumed that this topic means "since the beginning of the season". Obviously the Brawn is the most heavily developed car *overall*, if we are talking about developed from scratch. Honda sacrificed their season last year in order to have a few extra months to develop this Brawn car.

I still don't buy RB's story about their so-called diffuser inquiry last year. Toyota and Williams developed their diffusers consulting the FIA every step of the way. If RB last year inquired with a legal design, there would be no reason for the FIA to deny them. Toyota and Williams never got denied working so closely with the FIA, so one can only assume that RB had a different design. I can bet that RB's original design they inquired with was different than the one they have on the RB5 right now.

mstar
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in my opinion we have to give it to ferrari don't we? but sure mclaren, bmw, renault are up there. It is interesting someone pointed out here renault do seem to have a quick process to get things on cars -however i am not conviced about the quality and translation to track time compared to ferrari. Which makes sense as ferrar i led to believe have the best resources with mclaren in F1