2023 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 03 - 05

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zoroastar wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:17
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:00
Redragon wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 18:36


But still he was 6th, which is impresive. Now is it stupid or not smart, time will tell but if the doctors, the expert as the Fia doctors, have clearing him and he is running on his own risk, it is within the racing spirit. Like Lauda or others who have run under not ideal physical circumstances
A short view in the past when a certain austrian driver was driving the italian gp in 10x more pain and due to a half charred face and body from 6wks prior. people called him a hero back then. not to mention just last year his own teammate drove with a busted face and no comment. fast forward to today, lance complains of some discomfort and not driving the optimal line, armchair commentators are already calling him a danger to everyone else. seriously people are just way too sensitive on a trivial issue. the fia cleared him on the extraction test, and he hasnt been driving dangerously so theres no reason to call this a safety issue.
im not disagreeing with you really, but there was the instance where he came out onto the track and piastri almost rear ended him because he was just sitting in the middle of racing line going 50kmh haha. nothing new there though
well that can be down to multiple reasons... everyones been caught doing something like that.... still...relaxing the grip in the middle of the straight and adjusting turn in handling is nothing new. its only in the spotlight becuase he injured himself. i guarantee all drivers at some point do those hand shakes mid straight as well...

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cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:20
zoroastar wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:17
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:00


A short view in the past when a certain austrian driver was driving the italian gp in 10x more pain and due to a half charred face and body from 6wks prior. people called him a hero back then. not to mention just last year his own teammate drove with a busted face and no comment. fast forward to today, lance complains of some discomfort and not driving the optimal line, armchair commentators are already calling him a danger to everyone else. seriously people are just way too sensitive on a trivial issue. the fia cleared him on the extraction test, and he hasnt been driving dangerously so theres no reason to call this a safety issue.
im not disagreeing with you really, but there was the instance where he came out onto the track and piastri almost rear ended him because he was just sitting in the middle of racing line going 50kmh haha. nothing new there though
well that can be down to multiple reasons... everyones been caught doing something like that.... still...relaxing the grip in the middle of the straight and adjusting turn in handling is nothing new. its only in the spotlight becuase he injured himself. i guarantee all drivers at some point do those hand shakes mid straight as well...
I don't understand why past mediocrity should be held as a reference to justify the current stupidity. An unfit driver, regardless of what times it was or is, shouldn't be racing in F1.

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if you have a father as Lance has and the doctors clear you out, you do a "Faramir" as in Lord of the Rings
even if it cost you more physically. You grow a pair even it is the most silly thing to do


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A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.

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F1NAC wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:26
A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.
Why? :D

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mendis wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:24
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:20
zoroastar wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:17


im not disagreeing with you really, but there was the instance where he came out onto the track and piastri almost rear ended him because he was just sitting in the middle of racing line going 50kmh haha. nothing new there though
well that can be down to multiple reasons... everyones been caught doing something like that.... still...relaxing the grip in the middle of the straight and adjusting turn in handling is nothing new. its only in the spotlight becuase he injured himself. i guarantee all drivers at some point do those hand shakes mid straight as well...
I don't understand why past mediocrity should be held as a reference to justify the current stupidity. An unfit driver, regardless of what times it was or is, shouldn't be racing in F1.
i tend to agree, if indeed hes in that much pain. not for his safety really, but for the drivers around him (id hate to see him take out a bunch of cars at the start of the gp, in the first race of the season) i dont undermine his determination though. we dont know how much pain he is really in, and kubica drove a whole season or 2 without use of both hands. i wouldnt be surprised if AM make a last minute swap before the race though.

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mendis wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:24
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:20
zoroastar wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:17


im not disagreeing with you really, but there was the instance where he came out onto the track and piastri almost rear ended him because he was just sitting in the middle of racing line going 50kmh haha. nothing new there though
well that can be down to multiple reasons... everyones been caught doing something like that.... still...relaxing the grip in the middle of the straight and adjusting turn in handling is nothing new. its only in the spotlight becuase he injured himself. i guarantee all drivers at some point do those hand shakes mid straight as well...
I don't understand why past mediocrity should be held as a reference to justify the current stupidity. An unfit driver, regardless of what times it was or is, shouldn't be racing in F1.
unfit in the eyes of WHOM? armchair f1 technical geeks or the FIA? last time i heard it wasnt you making the decisions. much more qualified people do. so let them do their jobs and lets move on.

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F1NAC wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:26
A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.
Once RB/Max wins this weekend, it will settle down. It’s a AM love in at the minute on the boards.

I think RB will still romp away and win both championships, but there could be a decent battle between Ferrari and AM. Mercedes has been the biggest disappointment for many though, particularly British fans.

I’m not expecting a great season, once the realisation of Max winning it and the initial excitement of AM being competitive wanes.

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cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:30
mendis wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:24
cplchanb wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:20


well that can be down to multiple reasons... everyones been caught doing something like that.... still...relaxing the grip in the middle of the straight and adjusting turn in handling is nothing new. its only in the spotlight becuase he injured himself. i guarantee all drivers at some point do those hand shakes mid straight as well...
I don't understand why past mediocrity should be held as a reference to justify the current stupidity. An unfit driver, regardless of what times it was or is, shouldn't be racing in F1.
unfit in the eyes of WHOM? armchair f1 technical geeks or the FIA? last time i heard it wasnt you making the decisions. much more qualified people do. so let them do their jobs and lets move on.
One must be blind not to see him struggling while driving and even getting out of the car.

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About F2: what an obliteration from Pourchaire, and that on a spec series :!: :!: Even with F1 being an open competition, I don´t expect to see such gap from the pole´s time to the second one :wtf:

About F3 : Gabrielle Mini is good, mini Montoya is not :lol: :lol: :lol:

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DGP123 wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:35
F1NAC wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:26
A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.

I think RB will still romp away and win both championships, but there could be a decent battle between Ferrari and AM. Mercedes has been the biggest disappointment for many though, particularly British fans.
RB and Aston Martin are british based teams. Tons of british employees. Plenty for british fans to be happy about. Aston Martin is one of the last standing great british automakers.
A lion must kill its prey.

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DGP123 wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:35
F1NAC wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:26
A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.
Once RB/Max wins this weekend, it will settle down. It’s a AM love in at the minute on the boards.

I think RB will still romp away and win both championships, but there could be a decent battle between Ferrari and AM. Mercedes has been the biggest disappointment for many though, particularly British fans.

I’m not expecting a great season, once the realisation of Max winning it and the initial excitement of AM being competitive wanes.
It's been a decade since we saw Alonso in a competitive car and that's to me is exciting. But the reality is, currently AM is nowhere near to RB in terms of their technical depth, the development pace, the strategy and racing operations, which would be decisive in winning races and championships. It will take some more time for AM to mature in those areas, but for so long as Alonso sits in a car, there is a hope that he can extract every ounce of it and provide good entertainment. That is the exciting bit.

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I agree, I fear this season will be a cake walk for max. Season could be over by half way. I hope I’m wrong and just praying there is credible competition

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DGP123 wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:35
F1NAC wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 19:26
A lot of people are going to be disappointed after this weekend.
Once RB/Max wins this weekend, it will settle down. It’s a AM love in at the minute on the boards.

I think RB will still romp away and win both championships, but there could be a decent battle between Ferrari and AM. Mercedes has been the biggest disappointment for many though, particularly British fans.

I’m not expecting a great season, once the realisation of Max winning it and the initial excitement of AM being competitive wanes.
I think reliability will be more on the mix this year, if there are 3 teams too close as it is expected. The team with less problems during the season will win. I am expecting a great season because of this reason as if they the top 3 are within less of a sec. The WC is to whoever burst less during the races
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The Prodigy wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 18:42
Redragon wrote:
03 Mar 2023, 18:30
Apparently Alonso is not old anymore. Now everyone is shitting their pants of what he can do if he really have a good car this year
Alonso is just amazing. The other teams can be happy that he is not 35/36. This guy would win championships with the right car even at 41/42. It’s not his physical state that very impressive - it’s his mindset. This guy is hungry. His age is not a disadvantage. His experience is probably the biggest advantage that he has.
One thing is for sure and that is he won’t pander to Verstappens aggressive driving if he’s fighting for wins.