2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[McL-H]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

[Emag]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

[McL-H]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

I don’t think it will be 1s either. It does leave the question open of what “a chunk of time” really means. With the field being as close as it is, a chunk of time could be 2 tenths even. But that would not really fit in the ambitions the team have set for themselves. I think if it is 5 or 6 tenths that would be astonishing.

[Ben1980]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

Who says it's worth a second?

[McL-H]

I just read an interview with Key from a couple of weeks ago in which he said the new wind tunnel will come online in 2024? I thought it would be ready this Summer. Did I miss something about a new delay?

[Emag]

I just read an interview with Key from a couple of weeks ago in which he said the new wind tunnel will come online in 2024? I thought it would be ready this Summer. Did I miss something about a new delay?

The wind tunnel will come online this year, however it will not be used for this year's car, rather for the development of the 2024 car.

Perhaps a misunderstanding in the article you read.

[McL-H]

I just read an interview with Key from a couple of weeks ago in which he said the new wind tunnel will come online in 2024? I thought it would be ready this Summer. Did I miss something about a new delay?

The wind tunnel will come online this year, however it will not be used for this year's car, rather for the development of the 2024 car.

Perhaps a misunderstanding in the article you read.

It could be a mistake from the author, yes.

A translation from the article:
“For the cars of 2023, 2024 and 2025 we all have a plan, a plan for how we need to take the steps we have to make as a team. When the new wind tunnel comes online in 2024, we will know exactly how we are going to use it, what car will benefit from it and those kind of things.”

https://racingnews365.nl/het-formule-1- ... egelijk-is

I couldn’t find the interview written out in English. Anybody else stumbled on it?

[SmallSoldier]

I just read an interview with Key from a couple of weeks ago in which he said the new wind tunnel will come online in 2024? I thought it would be ready this Summer. Did I miss something about a new delay?

The wind tunnel will come online this year, however it will not be used for this year's car, rather for the development of the 2024 car.

Perhaps a misunderstanding in the article you read.

It could be a mistake from the author, yes.

A translation from the article:
“For the cars of 2023, 2024 and 2025 we all have a plan, a plan for how we need to take the steps we have to make as a team. When the new wind tunnel comes online in 2024, we will know exactly how we are going to use it, what car will benefit from it and those kind of things.”

https://racingnews365.nl/het-formule-1- ... egelijk-is

I couldn’t find the interview written out in English. Anybody else stumbled on it?

There has been plenty of comments from the Team that the Wind Tunnel will be ready this season, expected to be ready mid season in order to start using it for the 2024 car

[mwillems]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

I don’t think it will be 1s either. It does leave the question open of what “a chunk of time” really means. With the field being as close as it is, a chunk of time could be 2 tenths even. But that would not really fit in the ambitions the team have set for themselves. I think if it is 5 or 6 tenths that would be astonishing.

I nice step is one or 2 tenths, a significant step is anything upwards of that, in my view. But I'd cap at half a second. This is all conjecture, but I'm hoping for 3 to 5 tenths just as a gut instinct.

Given that this is half of our winter development and eating into the season, if this update brings 2 tenths then I I'll be really surprised and disappointed.

[AR3-GP]

That's more like it Oscar. No idea if it's representative but it looked quick.

[SmallSoldier]

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

I don’t think it will be 1s either. It does leave the question open of what “a chunk of time” really means. With the field being as close as it is, a chunk of time could be 2 tenths even. But that would not really fit in the ambitions the team have set for themselves. I think if it is 5 or 6 tenths that would be astonishing.

I nice step is one or 2 tenths, a significant step is anything upwards of that, in my view. But I'd cap at half a second. This is all conjecture, but I'm hoping for 3 to 5 tenths just as a gut instinct.

Given that this is half of our winter development and eating into the season, if this update brings 2 tenths then I I'll be really surprised and disappointed.

We’ll have to be careful not only with expectations of the new package, but also assessing it when it is delivered… It will depend on where the lap time comes from… Since it could help more in low speed or high speed, therefore it could show more lap time gain in X type of track and less lap time gain in Y type of track (let’s say Hungary vs Monza if we want to go to extremes).

I would simply wait until Baku and try to understand it at that point, reading too much into the comments will create only disappointment I’m afraid.

[AR3-GP]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

The AMR23

[SmallSoldier]

If the Baku update is worth a second, we’ll be championship contenders, no?

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

The AMR23

Lol… That’s a new car, not an upgrade package

[the EDGE]

It will not be worth a second. Can't even recall the last time a team gained 1 second of relative delta from a single upgrade package.

The AMR23

Lol… That’s a new car, not an upgrade package

Mercedes 2019 & RB 2022 spring to mind

The cars they started testing with were significantly different to how they finished testing. Maybe not a full second, but probably came close to it

[Darth-Piekus]

Is it an upgrade package though or is it a new car? Didn't they mentioned that they abandoned that MCL60 cause they found a better solution?