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KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 21:31
In other news, this Spanish publication is reporting that if Mercedes don't improve and Aston keeps beating them then the engines with the best numbers will go to Aston Martin, which would mean an increase of 4 hp. Not too sure about the reliability of the portal but I share it anyways.

https://theobjective.com/deportes/2023- ... formula-1/
Things move so fast in F1;Hamilton will be irked for sure :D :D

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diffuser wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 17:30
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 15:26

No two engines are exactly the same, but I'm sure Mercedes does the best they can to ensure consistency.


Engine maps choices and software have to be identical to the manufacturer. They are verified by FIA. They also have the choice to run the manufacturers fuel and lubricants. I doudt they put brand new PUs on the dyno before Dowling them out.
Benefits for Aston Martin
Mercedes is a racing team and at the same time supplier of engines to its clientele. When engines leave its factory in Brixworth, the best produced and that throw better figures, go in good logic to Mercedes itself. They are all built under the same pattern, by the same hands, and with the same materials. Despite this, it is common that due to deviations, inaccuracies or failure of the materials there are small differences that fall within the tolerances admitted by the regulatory entity.

The best engine that Lewis Hamilton had in the inaugural test, for example, delivered 3Kw more than the best of the Aston Martin, which is equivalent to about four horsepower. This is acceptable, it has always happened, and with all suppliers. The seconds go to Aston Martin, and this is what could change, so that this direction is reversed in its direction. If the brand understands that the Mercedes team is not going to win races with them, but Aston Martin could, they have already received the communication that they start thinking about this from the fourth round of the world championship.
https://theobjective.com/deportes/2023- ... formula-1/


@Diffuser, you want to say again that being an engine customer doesn't matter?

If seconds are going to Aston Martin, what are Mclaren getting? :?
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KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 20:14
NAPI10 wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 20:03
KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 17:24
Some concerns were raised here previously about the performance of the AMR23 in Jeddah due to the different requirements of the track. Well, I'm not allowed to say more, but let's just say that maybe things aren't as they seem, in a good way. To be confirmed next week.
What do you mean by "I'm not allowed to say more" ; ur affiliated with AM?? :shock: :shock: :shock:
No but I have a friend who more or less is and you cant relay sensitive info around like nothing. I just wanted to reply to the posts saying Aston might suffer in Jeddah that it's not necessarily the case due to something which I cannot mention. We'll see anyways, nothing is promised and we need to keep our feet in the ground in the meanwhile.
Is your friend Lance's trainer/manager, Nuno Pinto cos hes saying that publicly on a podcast....

https://soymotor.com/f1/noticias/nuno-p ... -en-barein

Considering teams themselves get surprised by on track results, Id consider these with some reservations.

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From your link^
On the other hand, Nuno has revealed what could be the most favorable circuits for the British team. "I want to get to Barcelona, I want to get to Budapest, I want to get to Austria...", he said. :x
:shock:
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peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Is your friend Lance's trainer/manager, Nuno Pinto cos hes saying that publicly on a podcast....

https://soymotor.com/f1/noticias/nuno-p ... -en-barein
Huh. No he's not, I received the simulator information from another person. Didn't know he was saying it publicly on streams. That's weird.
Anyways, there's that then since its now being reported. Apparently the simulations show Jeddah as a better track than Bahrain for the Aston. (but he shouldn't have said that, no sure why he did it)

peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Considering teams themselves get surprised by on track results, Id consider these with some reservations.
Yes, which is why I said nothings a given and we need to keep our feet on the ground. It could be a false reading so keep calm.
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KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 23:12

Yes, which is why I said nothings a given and we need to keep our feet on the ground.
You've done a great job helping to temper expectations. How ever will I repay you :wink: :lol:
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KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 23:12
peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Is your friend Lance's trainer/manager, Nuno Pinto cos hes saying that publicly on a podcast....

https://soymotor.com/f1/noticias/nuno-p ... -en-barein
Huh. No he's not, I received the simulator information from another person. Didn't know he was saying it publicly on streams. That's weird.
Anyways, there's that then since its now being reported. Apparently the simulations show Jeddah as a better track than Bahrain for the Aston.

peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Considering teams themselves get surprised by on track results, Id consider these with some reservations.
Yes, which is why I said nothings a given and we need to keep our feet on the ground. It could be a false reading so keep calm.
Its a strange interview because the other tracks he mentions are much more similar to Bahrain than Jeddah.

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Are those post the planned updates? 🤔

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I imagine Lance Stroll's trainer will get a slap on the wrist. Ironically. Next time he should learn to keep his mouth shut. Would be funny if it's wrong and the car is actually slower in those track requirements though...
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peewon wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 00:01
KimiRai wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 23:12
peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Is your friend Lance's trainer/manager, Nuno Pinto cos hes saying that publicly on a podcast....

https://soymotor.com/f1/noticias/nuno-p ... -en-barein
Huh. No he's not, I received the simulator information from another person. Didn't know he was saying it publicly on streams. That's weird.
Anyways, there's that then since its now being reported. Apparently the simulations show Jeddah as a better track than Bahrain for the Aston.

peewon wrote:
09 Mar 2023, 22:17

Considering teams themselves get surprised by on track results, Id consider these with some reservations.
Yes, which is why I said nothings a given and we need to keep our feet on the ground. It could be a false reading so keep calm.
Its a strange interview because the other tracks he mentions are much more similar to Bahrain than Jeddah.
In terms of tarmac roughness??
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RedNEO wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:19

In terms of tarmac roughness??
https://media.tenor.com/E_9e8eiLcgUAAAA ... though.gif
In terms of slow corners which is where AM was the best. I think the two hairpins and the first corner are really the only two traction zones. And yes, their best quality was tyre wear on hig deg track. how much that translates to performance on a low deg track like Jeddah remains to be seen.

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peewon wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:46
RedNEO wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:19

In terms of tarmac roughness??
https://media.tenor.com/E_9e8eiLcgUAAAA ... though.gif
In terms of slow corners which is where AM was the best. I think the two hairpins and the first corner are really the only two traction zones. And yes, their best quality was tyre wear on hig deg track. how much that translates to performance on a low deg track like Jeddah remains to be seen.
The implication is they sacrificed a bit of straight line performance to counter the heavy deg in Bahrain and judging by their pace in the race they judged it pretty well. For Jeddah they can revert back to there optimal downforce config I guess but that’s just a theory atm

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RedNEO wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:57
peewon wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:46
RedNEO wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:19

In terms of tarmac roughness??
https://media.tenor.com/E_9e8eiLcgUAAAA ... though.gif
In terms of slow corners which is where AM was the best. I think the two hairpins and the first corner are really the only two traction zones. And yes, their best quality was tyre wear on hig deg track. how much that translates to performance on a low deg track like Jeddah remains to be seen.
The implication is they sacrificed a bit of straight line performance to counter the heavy deg in Bahrain and judging by their pace in the race they judged it pretty well. For Jeddah they can revert back to there optimal downforce config I guess but that’s just a theory atm
A great theory I'd bet.
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AR3-GP wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 02:04
RedNEO wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:57
peewon wrote:
10 Mar 2023, 01:46


In terms of slow corners which is where AM was the best. I think the two hairpins and the first corner are really the only two traction zones. And yes, their best quality was tyre wear on hig deg track. how much that translates to performance on a low deg track like Jeddah remains to be seen.
The implication is they sacrificed a bit of straight line performance to counter the heavy deg in Bahrain and judging by their pace in the race they judged it pretty well. For Jeddah they can revert back to there optimal downforce config I guess but that’s just a theory atm
A great theory I'd bet.
Here’s hoping

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