2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 17 - 19

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organic wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 18:06
Wouter wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 17:57
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Any way to view this content on a platform that allows skipping / fast forward? Terrible to have such a long video without that ability :D
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You could learn German and listen to what they are saying. :wink:
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Epic tyvm :o

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organic wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 18:20
Epic tyvm :o
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You don't like jokes? I was just joking. :D

The images were just to get in the mood.
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I'm so excited for the race, but nervous as an Alonso fan that the AMR might have a bigger gap to the top 3 teams as the car seemed a bit draggy and this track won't have as many opportunities to take advantage of the mechanical grip.

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Alo_Fan wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 21:13
I'm so excited for the race, but nervous as an Alonso fan that the AMR might have a bigger gap to the top 3 teams as the car seemed a bit draggy and this track won't have as many opportunities to take advantage of the mechanical grip.
Team seems confident from rumour, and the car was no slower than merc on the straights in quali at Bahrain (both 319 km/h top speed) despite the low df wing for Merc and safe to say AMR will bring a low df wing to match the circuit. Maybe they won't have the efficiency of RB/Ferrari but still it won't be bad. Third fastest at worst IMO - Merc were quite weak through the high speed & straights at Bahrain despite the smaller wing

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DRS detection point for the pit straight has been moved to after the last corner: https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187831/n ... rn-27.html

This should prevent silly buggers into the final corner.
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AR3-GP wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 21:31
DRS detection point for the pit straight has been moved to after the last corner: https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/187831/n ... rn-27.html

This should prevent silly buggers into the final corner.
That was the absolute coolest part last year !
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I'm going to be the most optimistic about this race that everyone at the top will be almost evenly matched and that 4 teams will fight for Qualy and Race tooth and nail.

My wish:

Qualy:
1. Alonso
2. Verstappen
3. Hamilton
4. Leclerc
5. Russel
6. Sainz
7. Perez
8. Stroll

Race:
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Russel
6. Stroll
7. Sainz
8. Gasly
Wroom wroom

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F1Krof wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 23:23
I'm going to be the most optimistic about this race that everyone at the top will be almost evenly matched and that 4 teams will fight for Qualy and Race tooth and nail.

My wish:

Qualy:
1. Alonso
2. Verstappen
3. Hamilton
4. Leclerc
5. Russel
6. Sainz
7. Perez
8. Stroll

Race:
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Russel
6. Stroll
7. Sainz
8. Gasly
I hope you're right!

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ringo wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 16:46
My predictions are reliability failure for redbull or ferrari and a clash between Alonso and Checo.
This track will produce heated battles for closely matched cars. For sparks to fly, pun intended, you just need drivers that wont back down like Max, Checo and Alonso to be fighting over the same piece of track.
Russel to get lucky again with a safety car and podium. Hard to say what becomes of Lewis, but a steady measured race from him in his slow W14.
Sorry to spoil the narrative, but to a large degree you make your own luck in F1; one other point, 0.3-0.5 seconds off is not slow but difficult to create the heroic fight-back otherwise, heh?
On THAT point, if the W14 is so, so, slow it will take more than ‘luck’ to get on the podium with either car (a freak tornado or tidal-wave swoops in and takes the leading cars out, promoting GR to the podium whilst at the same time ‘trashing’ LH’s race leaving him just outside the points?).

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0.5% off the pace is not (and never has been “slow”) and great strategy can overcome a pace deficit.

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organic wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 21:18
Alo_Fan wrote:
14 Mar 2023, 21:13
I'm so excited for the race, but nervous as an Alonso fan that the AMR might have a bigger gap to the top 3 teams as the car seemed a bit draggy and this track won't have as many opportunities to take advantage of the mechanical grip.
Team seems confident from rumour, and the car was no slower than merc on the straights in quali at Bahrain (both 319 km/h top speed) despite the low df wing for Merc and safe to say AMR will bring a low df wing to match the circuit. Maybe they won't have the efficiency of RB/Ferrari but still it won't be bad. Third fastest at worst IMO - Merc were quite weak through the high speed & straights at Bahrain despite the smaller wing
Ahem mate, that's not true.. in the race mercedes was significantly faster on straights than aston when not DRSed. They were also faster in qualifying on every straight and especially the one down to T14. Similar top speed is deceiving you.


Aston was a brick in bahrain. Right choice for that track, but still a brick.

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Juzh wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 12:05
Ahem mate, that's not true.. in the race mercedes was significantly faster on straights than aston when not DRSed.
This is because of their Ferrari-inspired rear wing design, which gives much lower DRS gain, but quite a bit less draggy with the closed flap in race situation.
We've yet to see both cars in more or less similar aeroload configurations.

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Juzh wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 12:05

Ahem mate, that's not true.. in the race mercedes was significantly faster on straights than aston when not DRSed. They were also faster in qualifying on every straight and especially the one down to T14. Similar top speed is deceiving you.


Aston was a brick in bahrain. Right choice for that track, but still a brick.
Thank you for the correction you're quite right. Similar top speed but Merc gained on every straight over the Aston. I think if Merc use this wing again in Jeddah however they will seem quite slow on the straights once everyone else lowers their drag levels

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My honest predictions are:

Qualy:
1. Leclerc
2. Verstappen
3. Sainz
4. Perez
5. Hamilton
6. Russell
7. Alonso
8. Stroll

Race:
1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Sainz
4. Alonso
5. Leclerc (10 place grid penalty)
6. Hamilton
7. Russell
8. Stroll
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