2023 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 31 - April 02

[dialtone]

A restart at this point of a race is always going to be carnage

How so? Surely that's only because they aren't careful owner-drivers like Brabham and McLaren?

Great job by Verstappen, Hamilton and Alonso anyway. Russell unlucky.

Mostly new cold softs on empty car, only 2 laps without DRS, if you don't pass on T1/T6 you don't pass any more. But also every single driver overestimated their braking point into T1 and went long, then again Stroll totally missed the braking point in T3 as well.

owner-drivers I don't know... It was super risky and a red flag was easy to predict given how race control treated the previous occasions.

[vorticism]

Podium was based on restart order, they may scrub everything that happened on that lap including Sainz.

[Unc1eM0nty]

A restart at this point of a race is always going to be carnage

How so? Surely that's only because they aren't careful owner-drivers like Brabham and McLaren?

A the start of a race heavy with fuel, and the whole race ahead of them, the drivers are conservative. There is too much to loose by being reckless.

With only 2 laps left the opposit is true, the first few corners are the only real chance they have to make up places. They take risks and this is what happens.

[dialtone]

Absolute Farce. FIA give nothing for tapping out Leclerc, and then give Sainz 5 seconds behind a safety car finish. Horrendous decisions

I agree, 5 sec penalty is just a big joke.

Well leclerc caused his own retirement by turning into Lance mid corner. Lance couldn't have avoided him. Sainz on the other hand did a semi divebomb from behind

bit of a stretch considering stroll practically touched alonso. it's a racing incident and it's alright, but stroll had no business being there, that corner was leclerc's, stroll needs to gtfo and brake, which I suppose is what some people might be saying about sainz later.

Both racing incidents in my eyes (and I called the leclerc one the same when it happened in the discord channel).

[Vinlarr89]

Absolute Farce. FIA give nothing for tapping out Leclerc, and then give Sainz 5 seconds behind a safety car finish. Horrendous decisions

I agree, 5 sec penalty is just a big joke.

Well leclerc caused his own retirement by turning into Lance mid corner. Lance couldn't have avoided him. Sainz on the other hand did a semi divebomb from behind

A semi divebomb? Whatever that is? Watch it back and there’s basically nowhere for him to go. It’s a racing incident

[Fer.Fan]

Another drama coming?

Penalty are only for others drives, like Carlos 5 sec. Don’t expect FIA to punish Max. They never do.

[cplchanb]

I agree, 5 sec penalty is just a big joke.

Well leclerc caused his own retirement by turning into Lance mid corner. Lance couldn't have avoided him. Sainz on the other hand did a semi divebomb from behind

A semi divebomb? Whatever that is? Watch it back and there’s basically nowhere for him to go. It’s a racing incident

Not to mention he did partly cause the chain reaction that destroyed alpine. I think they took that into account as well.

[Cs98]

Another drama coming?

Penalty are only for others drives, like Carlos 5 sec. Don’t expect FIA to punish Max. They never do.

Perhaps because it is in fact not a penalty... https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... edia_that/

[Shrieker]

Penalty are only for others drives, like Carlos 5 sec. Don’t expect FIA to punish Max. They never do.

Sensor might not have triggered, but the tire contact patch is very clearly on the white line.

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here are the current rules, from the 2023 sporting regulations:

"In all cases the order will be taken at the last point at which it was possible to determine the position of all cars. All such cars will then be permitted to resume the sprint session or the race."

So imo the one they finished with is clearly incorrect.

thinking about it, maybe the emphasis is on "all cars" there, and Sargeant probably didn't go any further than mini sector 1, if at all.

[dialtone]

Well leclerc caused his own retirement by turning into Lance mid corner. Lance couldn't have avoided him. Sainz on the other hand did a semi divebomb from behind

A semi divebomb? Whatever that is? Watch it back and there’s basically nowhere for him to go. It’s a racing incident

Not to mention he did partly cause the chain reaction that destroyed alpine. I think they took that into account as well.

Go watch it again.

Gasly locks his fronts and almost takes out Stroll. Because he does so, Perez, who is on his left, can't turn in and goes out through gravel. Then gasly comes back in immediately and closes in on Ocon without seeing him.

Sainz had nothing to do, no car touched Alonso's and 2 cars side by side passed between Alonso and Sainz/Stroll.

[kediown]

At the moment there is no open investigation into Verstappen's position in the restart. The yellow line is just a reference to help pilots. The white box is the reference. They can even step on it (The white one)

Should be fine. If anything, he placed the car as best as he could

[Cs98]

Penalty are only for others drives, like Carlos 5 sec. Don’t expect FIA to punish Max. They never do.

Sensor might not have triggered, but the tire contact patch is very clearly on the white line.

Which is allowed. You must not contact ahead of the white line. Hovering is fine.

[Shrieker]

Penalty are only for others drives, like Carlos 5 sec. Don’t expect FIA to punish Max. They never do.

Sensor might not have triggered, but the tire contact patch is very clearly on the white line.

Which is allowed. You must not contact ahead of the white line. Hovering is fine.

Yeah i think the sensor triggers if you go beyond it.

[organic]

Yeah max is starting with an extra yard on ham by doing that