Nothing I agree. So let's move this over to the other threadVenturiation wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 18:33What does that have to do with Ferrari thread ?
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Nothing I agree. So let's move this over to the other threadVenturiation wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 18:33What does that have to do with Ferrari thread ?
Thank you.
“As we are discussing with the FIA, and we sent the report to the FIA, I don't want to disclose any details of this discussion,” said team boss Fred Vasseur.
“The only thing is that about Gasly/Ocon, and for sure we had Sargeant/De Vries at Turn 1, and the reaction of the stewards was not the same. But I want to avoid making any comment.”
Firstly the stewards have to decide whether there is a case to be answered and specifically if there is “significant and relevant new element” and if they decide to proceed, they then make a decision based on that new evidence.
“The process is that first they will have a look on our petition to see if they can re-open the case,” said Vasseur. “Then we'll have a second hearing a bit later, with the same stewards or the stewards of the next meeting, about the decision itself.
“What we can expect is at least to have an open discussion with them, and also for the good of the sport to avoid this kind of decision when you have three cases on the same corner, and not the same decision.
“The biggest frustration was from Carlos, and you heard it on the radio, to not have a hearing.
“Because the case was very special, and in this case, I think it would have made sense considering that it was the race was over, it was not affecting the podium, to have a hearing, as Gasly and Ocon had.”
He added: “It's up to the stewards to what is the right penalty, but for me at least for Carlos, for the team, to reopen the discussion, it’s a first step. The outcome of this will be up to the FIA. We have our argument for sure, but I will keep the argument for the FIA.
“For sure we are expecting the review of the decision, because it's a petition for review, and we are not going to get the same decision.”
Red Bull budget cap penalty 'very light', says Ferrari's Frederic Vasseur
Ferrari say Red Bull's strong start to the season is partly due to their being given
a "very light" punishment for breaking Formula 1's budget cap.
Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur says that Red Bull have done a "very good job" but the penalty they were given last October was "very low".
Red Bull were fined $7m (£6.07m) and given a 10% reduction in permitted aerodynamic research for a year.
The penalty was for breaching the sport's budget cap by £1.86m in 2021.
Red Bull have dominated the start of the 2023 season, winning all three races.
"I am still convinced the penalty was very light," Vasseur said in a news conference on Thursday.
"If you consider we will improve [the car's performance by] a bit less than one second over the season in terms of aero, [and] you get a penalty of one tenth of this,
it is [equivalent to a loss of] 0.1secs.
"As it is not a linear progression, it is probably less, and as you are allowed to spend this money somewhere else, on weight saving and so on, for me the penalty is marginal.
"I don't want to say they didn't do a good job because, honestly, they did a very good job on the car. I am not trying to find an excuse at all, but if you ask me if the penalty is too light, I say yes."
Wouter wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 09:10https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/65209594
.Red Bull budget cap penalty 'very light', says Ferrari's Frederic Vasseur
Ferrari say Red Bull's strong start to the season is partly due to their being given
a "very light" punishment for breaking Formula 1's budget cap.
Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur says that Red Bull have done a "very good job" but the penalty they were given last October was "very low".
Red Bull were fined $7m (£6.07m) and given a 10% reduction in permitted aerodynamic research for a year.
The penalty was for breaching the sport's budget cap by £1.86m in 2021.
Red Bull have dominated the start of the 2023 season, winning all three races.
"I am still convinced the penalty was very light," Vasseur said in a news conference on Thursday.
"If you consider we will improve [the car's performance by] a bit less than one second over the season in terms of aero, [and] you get a penalty of one tenth of this,
it is [equivalent to a loss of] 0.1secs.
"As it is not a linear progression, it is probably less, and as you are allowed to spend this money somewhere else, on weight saving and so on, for me the penalty is marginal.
"I don't want to say they didn't do a good job because, honestly, they did a very good job on the car. I am not trying to find an excuse at all, but if you ask me if the penalty is too light, I say yes."
In what sense? Who should they hire? For sure we cannot blame him for poor car perfomance yet. Altough I hope that strategic issue that happened in Q's is isolated case.FW17 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 09:43Wouter wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 09:10https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/65209594
.Red Bull budget cap penalty 'very light', says Ferrari's Frederic Vasseur
Ferrari say Red Bull's strong start to the season is partly due to their being given
a "very light" punishment for breaking Formula 1's budget cap.
Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur says that Red Bull have done a "very good job" but the penalty they were given last October was "very low".
Red Bull were fined $7m (£6.07m) and given a 10% reduction in permitted aerodynamic research for a year.
The penalty was for breaching the sport's budget cap by £1.86m in 2021.
Red Bull have dominated the start of the 2023 season, winning all three races.
"I am still convinced the penalty was very light," Vasseur said in a news conference on Thursday.
"If you consider we will improve [the car's performance by] a bit less than one second over the season in terms of aero, [and] you get a penalty of one tenth of this,
it is [equivalent to a loss of] 0.1secs.
"As it is not a linear progression, it is probably less, and as you are allowed to spend this money somewhere else, on weight saving and so on, for me the penalty is marginal.
"I don't want to say they didn't do a good job because, honestly, they did a very good job on the car. I am not trying to find an excuse at all, but if you ask me if the penalty is too light, I say yes."
Frederic Vasseur the biggest mistake Ferrari made in 2023
Williams got Toto's "successor".F1NAC wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 10:47In what sense? Who should they hire? For sure we cannot blame him for poor car perfomance yet. Altough I hope that strategic issue that happened in Q's is isolated case.
he was asked about a penalty and gave his view on that which is similar to most of TP's..
what are you talking about??FW17 wrote: ↑07 Apr 2023, 11:11Williams got Toto's "successor".
Ferrari got a guy bettered by Cyril
The crime was also "very light", or actually "minor" by the financial regulations own definition. Vasseur should get over it, and start to get his house in order.Red Bull budget cap penalty 'very light', says Ferrari's Frederic Vasseur
Well said. I wonder when we will hear about the 2022 cost cap findings. 4 months into the next period now.