2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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jambuka wrote:
18 Apr 2023, 22:37
Is Leclerc on Schumacher level in extracting car potential ? I feel technically he is at par but he needs to have a ruthless mentality outside of just driving. On the radio, in strategies.
Comparing someone to MSC doesn't make a lot of sense, considering he is probably the best ever (at least in the modern era of Formula 1). If a team needs someone like MSC to win, it means things are not going very well, which is exactly the case for Ferrari.

Remember that Schumacher was following Brawn strategies/orders/advice, possibly the best ever at his job. Leclerc has to discuss with Rueda, Marcos, etc.

I really don't understand this focus on Ferrari drivers like they are the source of the issues. Maybe Max Verstappen would have yielded better results last year (highly unlikely), but his signing is so far-fetched that even a scenario where Ferrari produced a WDC capable car would be more likely.

Last 4 seasons:

2019: 3 wins
2020: 0 wins
2021: 0 wins
2022: 4 wins

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Andres125sx wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 11:55
Venturiation wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 01:02
i think the biggest issue is the budget cap
if there wasn't a budget cap ferrari would have won 2022 and made a perfect car for 2023

Like they did in 2021, 2020, 2019 before the budget cap?

Yeah perfect car those seasons... :lol: :lol: #-o
They did good considering they had to nerf the engine

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Ferrari eyeing 0.5 sec performance gain at Baku for SF-23 with combination of front and rear wing, suspension, setup, PU mapping. Hopefully the correlation is fixed and car is fast.

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jambuka wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 17:22
Ferrari eyeing 0.5 sec performance gain at Baku for SF-23 with combination of front and rear wing, suspension, setup, PU mapping. Hopefully the correlation is fixed and car is fast.
Where is this info from?

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organic wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 18:13
jambuka wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 17:22
Ferrari eyeing 0.5 sec performance gain at Baku for SF-23 with combination of front and rear wing, suspension, setup, PU mapping. Hopefully the correlation is fixed and car is fast.
Where is this info from?
https://scuderiafans.com/aerodynamics-s ... n-at-baku/

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enzo75 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 13:29
organic wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 18:13
jambuka wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 17:22
Ferrari eyeing 0.5 sec performance gain at Baku for SF-23 with combination of front and rear wing, suspension, setup, PU mapping. Hopefully the correlation is fixed and car is fast.
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Where is this info from?
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https://scuderiafans.com/aerodynamics-s ... n-at-baku/
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Sticking to the plan

Vasseur revealed that there would be no upgrades coming to the Ferrari car in Baku despite a four-week break after the Australian Grand Prix, in which Ferrari did not score a point.
“I think that we will have a flow of updates that some will come,” Vasseur said. “Not at Baku, because Baku we have the aero package for the level of downforce, [and] with the Sprint race it’s not the easiest one.

“But from Miami, Imola, not Monaco, but Barcelona – each race will have an update on the car.

“We are sticking to the plan, but we’ve made some adjustments, I think, in terms of balance and behaviour.
It [the car] was much better in Melbourne and we’ll continue in this direction.

“I don’t know if you can speak about...it’s not a B-car, if it’s what you want to say. We won’t come with something completely different; we’ll continue to update this one and we’ll try to update massively.”
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10602 ... baijan-gp/
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Wouter wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
enzo75 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 13:29
organic wrote:
20 Apr 2023, 18:13

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Where is this info from?
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https://scuderiafans.com/aerodynamics-s ... n-at-baku/
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Sticking to the plan

Vasseur revealed that there would be no upgrades coming to the Ferrari car in Baku despite a four-week break after the Australian Grand Prix, in which Ferrari did not score a point.
“I think that we will have a flow of updates that some will come,” Vasseur said. “Not at Baku, because Baku we have the aero package for the level of downforce, [and] with the Sprint race it’s not the easiest one.

“But from Miami, Imola, not Monaco, but Barcelona – each race will have an update on the car.

“We are sticking to the plan, but we’ve made some adjustments, I think, in terms of balance and behaviour.
It [the car] was much better in Melbourne and we’ll continue in this direction.

“I don’t know if you can speak about...it’s not a B-car, if it’s what you want to say. We won’t come with something completely different; we’ll continue to update this one and we’ll try to update massively.”
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10602 ... baijan-gp/
if they gain 0,5 just in baku without counting the next upgrades they might be back to fight for the title

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Venturiation wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 14:26
Wouter wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
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Sticking to the plan

Vasseur revealed that there would be no upgrades coming to the Ferrari car in Baku despite a four-week break after the Australian Grand Prix, in which Ferrari did not score a point.
“I think that we will have a flow of updates that some will come,” Vasseur said. “Not at Baku, because Baku we have the aero package for the level of downforce, [and] with the Sprint race it’s not the easiest one.

“But from Miami, Imola, not Monaco, but Barcelona – each race will have an update on the car.

“We are sticking to the plan, but we’ve made some adjustments, I think, in terms of balance and behaviour.
It [the car] was much better in Melbourne and we’ll continue in this direction.

“I don’t know if you can speak about...it’s not a B-car, if it’s what you want to say. We won’t come with something completely different; we’ll continue to update this one and we’ll try to update massively.”
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10602 ... baijan-gp/
if they gain 0,5 just in baku without counting the next upgrades they might be back to fight for the title
Pipe dream.

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https://www.gazzetta.it/motori/ferrari/ ... auri.shtml

Translated by GT.

Mekies will leave Maranello to move to Alpha Tauri

The race director would have already signed and could move this year. Will he be the team boss after Tost?
Louis Perna
April 25, 2023

Laurent Mekies' future will be far from Maranello, but always in Italy. Ferrari's "race director" is in fact destined to move to AlphaTauri, a team in the Red Bull system, which is based in Faenza. For the Frenchman with the D'Artagnan mustache, it will be a return to his origins, as he had started most of his F.1 career with Minardi, the team that later became Toro Rosso (2005) and eventually his current name. It was no secret that Mekies wanted to leave. He had already looked around for another team at the end of last season, after the earthquake that led to the replacement of Mattia Binotto at the top of Sport Management. Even the arrival of the new team boss Frédéric Vasseur, with whom he has been friends since their days at the Higher School of Aeronautical Engineering, does not change the situation. Likely factored into Mekies' decision was the fact that Ferrari's top management, from president John Elkann to CEO Benedetto Vigna, did not view him as the successor to Binotto, of whom he was a trusted right-hand man.

Mekies' move to AlphaTauri could take place during this championship if an agreement is reached, otherwise in 2024. He will join historic team principal Franz Tost, with whom he already worked in the Toro Rosso years when he was head of the team engineers witnessed the triumph of young Sebastian Vettel in the 2008 Monza flood. It could also be a matter of future choice. Tost, 67, recently stated his intention to leave F.1 within three years so that Mekies could have the chance to take charge of the team in 2026, barring immediate surprises.
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https://racingnews365.com/mekies-set-to ... t=25042023

Mekies is leaving it seems. Not sure how to feel

Vasseur referred to Mekies as a "pillar" of ferrari's future here

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/vasse ... /10443797/

So it seems perhaps things aren't as solid as they seemed and the rumours of unsettlement as a result of binotto's departure are true

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Ferrari decide 5 engines is correct this year
It has been agreed that an additional ICE, turbocharger, MGU-H and MGU-K may be used for this season. At the fifth element (not at the fourth) there will be penalties. Change that had already been discussed last year, without success.




But this is after the engine allowance in a season has been upped for this season only, so really a change from 4->5 for Ferrari's strategy makes sense with this announcement

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Guys we are back. 1 sec faster than F1-75 in sim
https://scuderiafans.com/f1-ferrari-ove ... -to-f1-75/

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jambuka wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 20:17
Guys we are back. 1 sec faster than F1-75 in sim
https://scuderiafans.com/f1-ferrari-ove ... -to-f1-75/
Key takeaways for Baku: Red Bull loses the stall
Among the crucial factors for seeking competitiveness on the Baku circuit is undoubtedly the management of the Power Unit. The engine will have to express the maximum potential on the very long straight that leads to turn one.

The SF-23 must not be inferior in terms of aerodynamic configuration, especially with ground clearance and management of vertical oscillations. This last aspect seems to have achieved excellent improvements according to the engineers, a key factor that should also lead to less tire degradation.

The effectiveness of the DRS also deserves a separate discussion. On the SF-23, like on other cars, a low-load rear wing will be adopted, counterbalanced by a revised front wing with specific profile and chord of the flaps. Given such a low level of downforce, the effectiveness of the mobile wing, a major strength of the RB19, could decrease by almost 40%. This would entail, in essence, a greater difficulty of inducing the stall of the diffuser when running on the straights. In short, it seems that at Baku, the so far unreachable Red Bull could be closer to the rest of the group, while clearly remaining the favourite for the race win.

Finally, it is worth remembering that the updates introduced on the red car in Baku will likely be part of a functional work for the specific type of track. Most of the developments are indeed planned between Imola and Barcelona, with a possible anticipation in Miami for the wings and the floor.
The problem with this theory is Monza 2022 where RB just ran a bigger wing than everyone else and still had higher top speeds when the DRS was open in qualifying, and then had a massive tire advantage in the race.

Nevertheless I think RB will have a small wing this year, like last year and really their race pace does not depend on DRS.

As for the rest, it sounds very positive. I hope Ferrari can challenge.
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organic wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 13:01
https://racingnews365.com/mekies-set-to ... t=25042023

Mekies is leaving it seems. Not sure how to feel

Vasseur referred to Mekies as a "pillar" of ferrari's future here

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/vasse ... /10443797/

So it seems perhaps things aren't as solid as they seemed and the rumours of unsettlement as a result of binotto's departure are true
Excellent. Not surprising to see him going to a team like Alpha Tauri (with all due respect).

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jambuka wrote:
25 Apr 2023, 20:17
Guys we are back. 1 sec faster than F1-75 in sim
https://scuderiafans.com/f1-ferrari-ove ... -to-f1-75/
Yes lets see what the Rolex say first