2023 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 28 - 30

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Thanx @Mtths.
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'The sprint is good for the sport': F1 ruler Mohammed ben Sulayem backs 'sprint race' weekends at six grand prix this year... with new format set to be approvedby F1 Commission this week

Mohammed ben Sulayem, the ruler of world motorsport, has given his crucial backing to the radical reform of Formula One’s race weekend schedule.

The FIA president’s views on the revolutionary proposals were unknown until he told Mail Sport on Saturday night:
‘The sprint is good for the sport.’

With his tacit blessing, a new format is now almost certain to be voted into existence this week with the support of the teams.

Under the proposals drawn up by F1 chief executive Stefano Domenicali, the six already designated ‘sprint race’ weekends will pan out like this:
Friday – one practice session followed by qualifying for Sunday’s grand prix.

Saturday will be ‘Sprint Saturday’. It will start with qualifying to determine the starting order for the sprint race,

which will then take place over one-third of the grand-prix distance that afternoon; Sunday will remain as it is now with the grand prix itself.

Sprint qualifying will be staged across three sessions of 12, 10 and eight minutes.
The idea behind the final – and shortest – session is that teams will only be able to complete one flying lap, introducing more jeopardy than is the case in the usual 10-minute shootout.

This schedule, if passed, will be rolled out across six weekends this year, starting in the Azerbaijani capital Baku at the end of this week. Austria, Belgium, Qatar, America (Austin) and Brazil are the other sprint venues.

Non-sprint weekends will continue as they are – three practice sessions, qualifying and grand prix.
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Anyone know of any update rumours for Baku?

Could be interesting to watch the top speed charts after the analysis in the 2023 gearing thread.

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https://fiaresultsandstatistics.motorsp ... t=MaxSpeed
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So basically we now have a Grand Prix and a Petit Prix. I think this is a better format if they insist on having these sprint races. I don't think that many people had issues when we did two Grands Prix in a row at the same venue in 2020.

Perhaps in the future they can even consider different tire compounds for the Grand Prix and the Petit Prix.

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Imagine someone wacking the car during first practice; your weekend is almost over. Team will have no chance to get u back in any competitive position.

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NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:27
Imagine someone wacking the car during first practice; your weekend is almost over. Team will have no chance to get u back in any competitive position.
Got a feeling it’s gonna be an expensive an painful weekend for some especially with so many teams bringing updates

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:11
I don't think that many people had issues when we did two Grands Prix in a row at the same venue in 2020.
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That was something completely different! Both GP weekends there was a build-up of FP1, FP2, FP3, qualifying and then the race. The teams were able to continuously improve their cars during the FPs. Now the car goes after FP in Parc Fermé and if the car is badly set up your whole weekend is ruined. You can also drive damage on Saturday, which falls under the BC of the world championship, which these sprint races now have nothing to do with. Moreover, you can now safely skip Saturday, because it has nothing to do with the GP on Sunday . Image
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haza wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:40
NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:27
Imagine someone wacking the car during first practice; your weekend is almost over. Team will have no chance to get u back in any competitive position.
Got a feeling it’s gonna be an expensive an painful weekend for some especially with so many teams bringing updates
It's the worst weekend to get major upgrades unless u don't want to compete in Sprint & use it as a practice session.

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NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 14:43
haza wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:40
NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:27
Imagine someone wacking the car during first practice; your weekend is almost over. Team will have no chance to get u back in any competitive position.
Got a feeling it’s gonna be an expensive an painful weekend for some especially with so many teams bringing updates
It's the worst weekend to get major upgrades unless u don't want to compete in Sprint & use it as a practice session.
Agree that it will be more expensive then it used to be and an added problem to the budged, but how does a a weekend be over for a car being wacked in practice? I believe that all teams going to a race weekend will go equipped for such an eventuality save for maybe shortages of some updated parts to be tried.

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NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 14:43
haza wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:40
NAPI10 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:27
Imagine someone wacking the car during first practice; your weekend is almost over. Team will have no chance to get u back in any competitive position.
Got a feeling it’s gonna be an expensive an painful weekend for some especially with so many teams bringing updates
It's the worst weekend to get major upgrades unless u don't want to compete in Sprint & use it as a practice session.
if they can run some sensors during sprint that would be a good idea but the setup needs to be perfect

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Why do you guys care about the engineers having an nice clear runway for setting up the car? I don't feel sorry for them they will figure it out. That whole challenge of who has done the best job of setting up in limited time will be great to see.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 17:38
Why do you guys care about the engineers having an nice clear runway for setting up the car? I don't feel sorry for them they will figure it out. That whole challenge of who has done the best job of setting up in limited time will be great to see.
Might aswell go straight into qualifying then?

Practice sessions help set the car up for the best package to preserve tyre life and performance gains.
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chrisc90 wrote:
23 Apr 2023, 13:02
Anyone know of any update rumours for Baku?

Could be interesting to watch the top speed charts after the analysis in the 2023 gearing thread.

Last year.
https://fiaresultsandstatistics.motorsp ... t=MaxSpeed
Guy doing analysis found out gearing throughout entire grid didn't change all that much, if at all, so it's a non factor in this regard. I expect top speeds to be around ~5kmh higher on average this year due to other developments.

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I love this race! Absolute Speed Fest. So much happens through qualifying to race. This being a sprint weekend, there could be loads of events and surprises! Race sims would be out of question due to differing practice and sprint times! If anyone gets "out of the box" setup wrong, they can pretty much write off the weekend. Red Bull have been guilty of this a few times.

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Very little time this weekend to get the setup of the car right. There is no opportunity to test the tires during the long runs.
After an hour immediately Parc Fermé and so nothing can be changed on a car. This will be a worthless weekend for several cars.
And for what? Because Domenicali claims that all fans would love to see a Sprint Saturday. Totally unbelievable.
Most fans want to see a GP weekend with a build up to qualifying on Saturday and the GP on Sunday.
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