2023 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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De Jokke wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:46
I wouldn't count on it, wasn't Wolff talking about a 3tenths worth upgrade for Imola?
The fact is that the car is a dog from the core, and they can't change the core.
They also haven't understood their 2022 problems, otherwise this car wouldn't be another dog. So I'm not very optimistic for '24 either.
3 tenths would mean they outqualify max in Australia and makes it harder for him to overtake them in the race. Would be useful gain I would think. But of course the others aren’t standing still. But there has been so much big talk from Merc behind the scenes so imo there’s big expectations.

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Hammerfist wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 17:17
De Jokke wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:46
I wouldn't count on it, wasn't Wolff talking about a 3tenths worth upgrade for Imola?
The fact is that the car is a dog from the core, and they can't change the core.
They also haven't understood their 2022 problems, otherwise this car wouldn't be another dog. So I'm not very optimistic for '24 either.
3 tenths would mean they outqualify max in Australia and makes it harder for him to overtake them in the race. Would be useful gain I would think. But of course the others aren’t standing still. But there has been so much big talk from Merc behind the scenes so imo there’s big expectations.
I hope so but I learned my lesson in '22. They found solutions (which never came).
Nothing but hollow words. Hopefully they can change that this year
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In ultimate quali pace they were at least 1.2 behind the rb...and 0.7 behind ferrari. If AMR DRS was working they would have been behind them. I don't see 0.3 of a second making any difference to their season. Just focus on 2024 now.

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Jdn1327 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 17:20
In ultimate quali pace they were at least 1.2 behind the rb...and 0.7 behind ferrari. If AMR DRS was working they would have been behind them. I don't see 0.3 of a second making any difference to their season. Just focus on 2024 now.
Yup, a great car and a beautiful car [-o<
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If George is to be believed, it’s just a draggy car. The rear wing isn’t the issue.
“To our calculations, we could even take the rear wing off and they’d still be faster than us down the straight – and that’s not even a joke.
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harty71 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 18:35
I predict a painful race for us fans tomorrow
You don’t have to predict, we’ve already seen what will unfold. That’s how this format works.

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Guys. Gray team over here. Please focus on the blue team and its drivers in the corresponding thread.

Lots of fights removed, warnings given.
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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 18:02
If George is to be believed, it’s just a draggy car. The rear wing isn’t the issue.
“To our calculations, we could even take the rear wing off and they’d still be faster than us down the straight – and that’s not even a joke.
Even the front wing is a draggy design. The cruvature of the leading edge is opposite to Ferrari and RedBull.
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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 18:02
If George is to be believed, it’s just a draggy car. The rear wing isn’t the issue.
“To our calculations, we could even take the rear wing off and they’d still be faster than us down the straight – and that’s not even a joke.
Yeah I don't buy that specific statement at all, that's beyond ridiculous :lol:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 20:45
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 18:02
If George is to be believed, it’s just a draggy car. The rear wing isn’t the issue.
“To our calculations, we could even take the rear wing off and they’d still be faster than us down the straight – and that’s not even a joke.
Yeah I don't buy that specific statement at all, that's beyond ridiculous :lol:
ah sugar :lol:


You could prove it with your CFD :wink:
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"It's a good indicator of what the problem is in terms of setup," Hamilton said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1025110/1 ... -f1-sprint

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pursue_one's wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 23:00
"It's a good indicator of what the problem is in terms of setup," Hamilton said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1025110/1 ... -f1-sprint
What's he going to do about it, tweak the front wing? Disappointing from him and his engineers yet again.

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harty71 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 23:22
pursue_one's wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 23:00
"It's a good indicator of what the problem is in terms of setup," Hamilton said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1025110/1 ... -f1-sprint
What's he going to do about it, tweak the front wing? Disappointing from him and his engineers yet again.
Hamilton might not know that you can't change the cars due to parc ferme.

He was something like 1-1.5 seconds off the front running pace. There is no setup in the world that's going to do anything about that.
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This is an interesting tweet, given the rumors...



"Masterclass"? That is a Charles Leclerc love-in :lol: Toto Wollf is going to sign Charles Leclerc. It's a question of when, not if.
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AR3-GP wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 05:11
harty71 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 23:22
pursue_one's wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 23:00
"It's a good indicator of what the problem is in terms of setup," Hamilton said.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1025110/1 ... -f1-sprint
What's he going to do about it, tweak the front wing? Disappointing from him and his engineers yet again.
Hamilton might not know that you can't change the cars due to parc ferme.

He was something like 1-1.5 seconds off the front running pace. There is no setup in the world that's going to do anything about that.
No excuses, he's starting to decline, I think this will be his final year, let a youngster have a go.