2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:46
search wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:44
AR3-GP wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:39


No one will overtake a Red Bull without a long DRS zone. In the mean time, a slightly shorter DRS zone does not affect Red Bull's ability to overtake others.
no one will come close to overtaking a Red Bull anyway, but this way they don't end up on pole, at least.
:lol: a valid point.
How many overtakes on a RB have there been so far? not including the first lap or pit lane overtakes?
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drs is a gimmick they should take it away permanently

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:52
AR3-GP wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:46
search wrote:
04 May 2023, 20:44


no one will come close to overtaking a Red Bull anyway, but this way they don't end up on pole, at least.
:lol: a valid point.
How many overtakes on a RB have there been so far? not including the first lap or pit lane overtakes?
I can't think of any. And really only one I can think of (first lap) Leclerc overtaking Perez at the start of Bahrain.

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Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.

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Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.
Max's starts have been leaving something to be desired since USA 2021. Prior to that, he was above average. He seems to mostly be going backwards lately. I don't know if it's a mechanical issue, something that is systematic with the procedure, or he's just lost the feel for it. Perhaps it's related to the way the Red Bulls struggle to get heat into their tires last year and this year.
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ali623 wrote:
04 May 2023, 13:53
Apparently heavy rainstorms expected during the Grand Prix on Sunday, might end up becoming a lengthy red flag affair.
Yes, it seems that it could be a tricky weather on Sunday. Let´s pray ...
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Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
And George was pushing it imho.
Pushing right into his sidepod lol.

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AR3-GP wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:36
Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.
Max's starts have been leaving something to be desired since USA 2021. Prior to that, he was above average. He seems to mostly be going backwards lately. I don't know if it's a mechanical issue, something that is systematic with the procedure, or he's just lost the feel for it. Perhaps it's related to the way the Red Bulls struggle to get heat into their tires last year and this year.
Just too many slow starts. He need to recognise that. There's always something a driver can improve in such things, like Lewis learned in 2016.

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AR3-GP wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:36
Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.
Max's starts have been leaving something to be desired since USA 2021. Prior to that, he was above average. He seems to mostly be going backwards lately. I don't know if it's a mechanical issue, something that is systematic with the procedure, or he's just lost the feel for it. Perhaps it's related to the way the Red Bulls struggle to get heat into their tires last year and this year.
I think its a Red Bull thing. Or more like cars that are good on tires are usually not great at warming them up right away. Aston is somewhat similar. Last year's Alpine and AM were also similar. Checo has also had bad starts like Jeddah.

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It's futile. The season is done. RBR just going to smash everybody and be done.
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F1Krof wrote:
05 May 2023, 09:55
It's futile. The season is done. RBR just going to smash everybody and be done.
Yeah, pretty much waiting for, 2024. Mercedes will bring this upgrade but it won’t change the outcome this season. RB fans biggest worry right now, is not the competition, but the colour of the livery, and if they like it or not.

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Sevach wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:50
Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
And George was pushing it imho.
Pushing right into his sidepod lol.
Considering how conservative others know the RBs will be wheel-to-wheel, it is the right approach to lap 1 engagements with them

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Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.
George was doing to Max exactly what Max has been doing to everyone else for years. And as George has said, Max doesn't like it being given back to him. Which means it's exactly the right thing to do from George's perspective because Max will end up giving way in order to protect his title chances. This is exactly what Lewis was doing back in the days when Max was being hard-nosed around him. Now Max understands what Lewis was having to do and why.

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F1Krof wrote:
05 May 2023, 09:55
It's futile. The season is done. RBR just going to smash everybody and be done.
With any luck the second half of the season might be fun. Red Bull will move onto 2023 development really quickly and hopefully Mercedes/Ferrari/AM can catch-up. 4 teams fighting for wins on a regular basis would be fantastic.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 May 2023, 11:36
Sieper wrote:
05 May 2023, 00:33
Both Lewis and George on Max in Australia and George again in Baku. First lap though. And George was pushing it imho.
George was doing to Max exactly what Max has been doing to everyone else for years. And as George has said, Max doesn't like it being given back to him. Which means it's exactly the right thing to do from George's perspective because Max will end up giving way in order to protect his title chances. This is exactly what Lewis was doing back in the days when Max was being hard-nosed around him. Now Max understands what Lewis was having to do and why.

Goes around, comes around.
Exactly. Lewis got attacked and labelled weak, constantly leaving doors open, yielding, and supposedly not on the level of the new generation of drivers coming through. All that nonsense.

Fortunately for Max, it’s not quite a similar landscape, as there is only the RB to fight with, and Perez will slowly but surely fade away by the summer break.