The Formula One Teams' Association announced on Thursday night that it has decided to setup a breakaway championship and not go into Max Mosley's proposals to enter Formula One under the cost cap regulations.
Great! exactly what we need, more Ferrari influence on the FIAt board.Afterburner wrote:WhiteBlue wrote:
Once FOM collapses and F1 is significantly damaged FOTA will have the necessary leverage to push their own candidate at the FIA presidential elections. It looks to me as if this has been the objective for some time.
Let me call one name for that place: Jean Todt
Agree with WB. With the best intent in the world, Todt just could not be totally unbiased (and even if somehow he WERE, few would believe 1t!)WhiteBlue wrote:Jean Todt is too much partisan for Ferrari to be an acceptable FIA president AFAIK. He has never served in the FIA but was just a Ferrari representative for the F1 commission. One cannot expect the FIA to elect a person without any ties and previous activity in the organization. I expect Montezemolo to find an appropriate cut out with FIA ties who will not give FOTA any pains.
donskar wrote:Agree with WB. With the best intent in the world, Tidt just could not be totally unbiased (and even if somehow he WERE, few would believe 1t!)WhiteBlue wrote:Jean Todt is too much partisan for Ferrari to be an acceptable FIA president AFAIK. He has never served in the FIA but was just a Ferrari representative for the F1 commission. One cannot expect the FIA to elect a person without any ties and previous activity in the organization. I expect Montezemolo to find an appropriate cut out with FIA ties who will not give FOTA any pains.
Here's a wild card to consider for some role in FOTA, either in management or as: What major high level auto racing is a billionaire who ALSO owns an auto manufacturer producing 100s of thousands of cars each year?
Roger Penske nows owns (as soon as the legal paperwork is complete) Saturn, formerly part of GM.
kilcoo316 wrote:Indeed.xpensive wrote:That's perhaps what you need if you work from an Ivory tower at Trafalgar square, professionals will have you a list of tracks, TV channels, organizers and speditors before lunch.
The commerical end could be (to all intentions and purposes) sorted within 2/3 weeks.
The contracts would be drawn up and signed over a slightly longer timeframe, but agreements in principal could be in place before the end of July.
Don't forget the LARGE FOTA GPWC stickers all over the token cars and team personnel uniforms.DM0407 wrote:Could teams like Ferrari/RBR/STR race under a different name? They could just hire a sub par cast and race with this year's chassis and then use their resources in a different series.
Fulfill their contracts with the FIA, but stick it to them at the same time. I don't think it would tarnish Ferrari's image as most people would understand why they would be second rate.
Conceptual wrote: OMG!
Do you even remember how much crap you just gave me over saying that same thing? Is that what you do? Argue until proven wrong, and then steal the argument for your own?
WOW!
FOTA= sunk because the FIA has them in their law trap now.
Everyone will start running away, and Ferrari, Red Bull, Brawn and Mclaren will all be back in F1 next year under the cap and making the most amazing F1 cars ever built.
Renault, Toyota, STR and BMW will then be the only members of FOTA, and on the outside.
Then 2010 will become and engine tweaking year with the $45MEUR AWD adaptable winged chassis.
And we will all be here talking about it, and speculating on what FOTA might have done if the FIA had just let them go like gentlemen.
It is going to be a crying shame really.
Ouch, please drop the megafone.gcdugas wrote:Don't forget the LARGE FOTA GPWC stickers all over the token cars and team personnel uniforms.
Assigning or electing an individual may be the wrong way to go. Perhaps a rotating govorner of sorts. Jean Todt in 2010... Ron Dennis in 2011 and so on.xpensive wrote:What needs to be done within the FIA is something more significant, or so I believe anyway.
Tean Todt would still have connections with the the era of corruption and deception.
Paul Stodart perhaps?
Why are you surprised? Haven't enough people on this forum been warning you that this time it is for real? And yet you stubbornly resisted them and even mocked their assertions and warnings. Cough, cough.WhiteBlue wrote:I am surprised that FOTA pulled this off so far. I do not see a way back to resolve this any more. The FIA/FOM camp have obviously under estimated the attraction of a series that would not be stripped of 50% of the revenues.
Why? The FIA is an irredeemable entity with politically stacked courts of appeal covering each others' asses and bone-headed stewards who don't even look at video footage or listen to radio transmissions before issuing a ruling. They are also very poor at interpreting the English language interpreting internal mass dampers as "movable aero devices". Last year's Spa decision etc. There is nothing there worth saving. Junk the whole lot of them. If they wanted to run a candidate to replace Max they would have done so the last time around as he wasn't very popular then either with all the GPMA row being contemporary just prior to that election.WhiteBlue wrote: Once FOM collapses and F1 is significantly damaged FOTA will have the necessary leverage to push their own candidate at the FIA presidential elections. It looks to me as if this has been the objective for some time.
