Is it said anywhere that it will be stiffer?
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The announcement says :
As such, RacingNews365 understands that Pirelli are set to introduce reinforced tyres capable of dealing with the higher than expected loads at Silverstone and for the remainder of the 2023 season.
A reinforced construction doesn't necessarily mean it will be a stiffer tyre.. I would just say it is new spec/reinforced at this point without details from pirelli
Yes it's perhaps a bit early, but if they are discussing "higher than anticipated loads", and needing to "reinforce" the tire, it usually means the tire will be stiffer.organic wrote: ↑11 May 2023, 19:53A reinforced construction doesn't necessarily mean it will be a stiffer tyre.. I would just say it is new spec/reinforced at this point without details from pirelli
The understeer was clear since the first day of testing. Terrible as it induces oversteer on exit as well due to the need of increasing the wheel angle to make the corner.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 17:16Duchessa confirms a new rear suspension upgrade for Imola and an upgrade for Spain said to be worth 3-4 tenths. The new floor in Miami was expected to bring one tenth, changing the balance forward and reducing the outwash effect. Ferrari have not been able to increase rear load because of the massive understeer.
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... a27b.shtml
Just seems to me like the car is a dud in regards to winning races this season. Run the suspension too stiffly - not enough rear downforce. Run the suspension too soft - bottom out and lose all downforce at the rear. Can't increase rear downforce to stop some of these problems because of a lack of front downforce meanwhile AMR matches RB DRS efficiency and have none of these issues, let alone talk about the RB19. I pray that after Barcelona we see something promising but I am not very optimistic.Xyz22 wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 17:29The understeer was clear since the first day of testing. Terrible as it induces oversteer on exit as well due to the need of increasing the wheel angle to make the corner.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 17:16Duchessa confirms a new rear suspension upgrade for Imola and an upgrade for Spain said to be worth 3-4 tenths. The new floor in Miami was expected to bring one tenth, changing the balance forward and reducing the outwash effect. Ferrari have not been able to increase rear load because of the massive understeer.
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... a27b.shtml
So Ferrari expected much better aero performance and on top of that they have a car which is absolutely unpredictable and has a very limited working window? Yikes.
I'm interested to see what effect this has. I'm not a rubber/tire expert, but to me as an outsider I don't know how you would increase the strength without increasing the stiffness or making the compounds generally harder.
What a complete disaster.
https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... /10469635/Clear reckons Ferrari might have to follow the lead of Red Bull by sacrificing some of its one-lap performance in order to improve its race day showing.
He continued: “Do we have to take a hit in qualifying? That's always a very difficult pill to swallow because races are very often made in qualifying.
“So, we can't afford to take our eye off the qualifying ball. But certainly, we need to fully understand how we can get the race pace.
“We have to take our hat off to the Red Bull and say they are doing something very, very clever. That car works very, very well in race pace.
“We might also conclude that to do so, maybe they are giving up some qualifying pace.
“That's why we can compete with them because they're not optimal in qualifying.”
Asked to identify where Red Bull was leaving Ferrari behind, Clear said: “They are very, very quick along the straights, especially when the DRS is open.
“Again, we have to look at that, see what we can do better to shed that drag, because that’s free lap time.
“The driver doesn't have to use too much skill to get from [one turn to another] as fast as possible. That's clearly an area where they were very quick.”
The same interview but fromAR3-GP wrote: ↑15 May 2023, 17:44https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... /10469635/Clear reckons Ferrari might have to follow the lead of Red Bull by sacrificing some of its one-lap performance in order to improve its race day showing.
He continued: “Do we have to take a hit in qualifying? That's always a very difficult pill to swallow because races are very often made in qualifying.
“So, we can't afford to take our eye off the qualifying ball. But certainly, we need to fully understand how we can get the race pace.
“We have to take our hat off to the Red Bull and say they are doing something very, very clever. That car works very, very well in race pace.
“We might also conclude that to do so, maybe they are giving up some qualifying pace.
“That's why we can compete with them because they're not optimal in qualifying.”
Asked to identify where Red Bull was leaving Ferrari behind, Clear said: “They are very, very quick along the straights, especially when the DRS is open.
“Again, we have to look at that, see what we can do better to shed that drag, because that’s free lap time.
“The driver doesn't have to use too much skill to get from [one turn to another] as fast as possible. That's clearly an area where they were very quick.”