Could well be the Twitter ones.
What photos have you seen of the ‘new’ car?
Eliott did say after bahrain that new sidepods are coming but will take 6 races to bring themPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 19:51Rumours... The side pods are definitely different! But still zero pods...
Most of the magic is the floor and front suspension.
He said that before Toto mentioned 2-3 tenths would not solve the problems and they need a more radical approach.Venturiation wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 20:15Eliott did say after bahrain that new sidepods are coming but will take 6 races to bring themPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 19:51Rumours... The side pods are definitely different! But still zero pods...
Most of the magic is the floor and front suspension.
He said they will follow tye zeropds philosophy but will be very different, and won't look like anything from the other teams
When Toto said that they needed a new design the engineers were already on it way beforemaygun wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 20:52He said that before Toto mentioned 2-3 tenths would not solve the problems and they need a more radical approach.Venturiation wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 20:15Eliott did say after bahrain that new sidepods are coming but will take 6 races to bring themPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 19:51Rumours... The side pods are definitely different! But still zero pods...
Most of the magic is the floor and front suspension.
He said they will follow tye zeropds philosophy but will be very different, and won't look like anything from the other teams
They saw the problems but wanted confirmation? That doesn't seem so certain. If they were certain, then the launch spec was a waste of budget and time.Venturiation wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 22:29When Toto said that they needed a new design the engineers were already on it way beforemaygun wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 20:52He said that before Toto mentioned 2-3 tenths would not solve the problems and they need a more radical approach.Venturiation wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 20:15
Eliott did say after bahrain that new sidepods are coming but will take 6 races to bring them
He said they will follow tye zeropds philosophy but will be very different, and won't look like anything from the other teams
They said they already saw the problems before coming to testing but wanted confirmation on track, on the shakedown too
There wasn't enough time to revert, it takes months to make a new carAR3-GP wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 22:38They saw the problems but wanted confirmation? That doesn't seem so certain. If they were certain, then the launch spec was a waste of budget and time.Venturiation wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 22:29When Toto said that they needed a new design the engineers were already on it way before
They said they already saw the problems before coming to testing but wanted confirmation on track, on the shakedown too
Makes sense to me.Venturiation wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 23:15There wasn't enough time to revert, it takes months to make a new carAR3-GP wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 22:38They saw the problems but wanted confirmation? That doesn't seem so certain. If they were certain, then the launch spec was a waste of budget and time.Venturiation wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 22:29
When Toto said that they needed a new design the engineers were already on it way before
They said they already saw the problems before coming to testing but wanted confirmation on track, on the shakedown too
That's why we were getting reports from formu1a.uno about problems during the winter
When they realized the issue it was already too late since they commited to that car during November 2022
They'll be zeropod because PZ said soHammerfist wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 01:31Makes sense to me.Venturiation wrote: ↑21 May 2023, 23:15There wasn't enough time to revert, it takes months to make a new car
That's why we were getting reports from formu1a.uno about problems during the winter
When they realized the issue it was already too late since they commited to that car during November 2022
But where do those rumored aero parts scaling correlation issues in the wind tunnel fit in that timeline? The one that got people fired? Was it before the launch?
Also i dont remember elliott saying that it would be a zero pod. I know he talked to Ted during the pre season test and not during the race weekend. He said they would be different and look nothing like anyone elses car. I dont think the term zero pod came out of his mouth. I could be wrong on that though.
It does stack up. If a team spot a problem too late in the design process or when parts are already in production then all you can do is figure out the issues, then work on a fix/upgrade that you can bring to the car once the season has started (it happened to McLaren). You also have to remember that the crash tests for new cars are quite extensive with little time to fix problems to pass a test before the start of a season. So changing a design concept late in the day, just isn't practical under the cost cap if you want to be able to start the season and not miss races.
I think it's an interesting take on what a potential Mercedes sidepod revision could look like. That's just a show car but the idea is there. It's another idea which shows that it's possible for Merc to still look quite different to the others.