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Right now I feel we have the second best car so p2 tomorrow should be the goal and if the Flying Dutchman somehow runs into issues we may score a win. Toto sounded very disappointed the car didn’t start p2 or p3. Hamilton said he’s going for the win. Let’s go!

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DGP123 wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 17:46
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03 Jun 2023, 17:37
Well that was a bit unfortunate contact between Russell and Hamilton. Hamilton's pace is very positive though, looked better than in FP. Hamilton getting comfortable with the car?
Hamilton looking sharp. Back to back Q wins over Russell, suggesting he’s certainly more comfortable on a Saturday now, and finding some consistency. Good signs.

Second row a good starting position, and should get a tow from Sainz at the start. Should target a P2 tomorrow.
P2 definitely possible, though race pace of Alonso in that AM looked better. But we'll see, can't wait!

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Race pace of Merc seemed right with Aston martin and Ferrari in fp2. Believe ham will at least challenge for p2 and a win is on the cards if max has big issues

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Gillian wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 17:37
Well that was a bit unfortunate contact between Russell and Hamilton. Hamilton's pace is very positive though, looked better than in FP. Hamilton getting comfortable with the car?
In FP the Mercs were trialling things. Lewis ran lower downforce rear wing than George - unsurprisingly, he was slower because of it.

In Q, George struggled to bring the tyres in. Maybe something about the circuit doesn't suit George. Makes tomorrow interesting as once his tyres warm up, he ought to be racey in the midfield.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 18:23
Gillian wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 17:37
Well that was a bit unfortunate contact between Russell and Hamilton. Hamilton's pace is very positive though, looked better than in FP. Hamilton getting comfortable with the car?
In FP the Mercs were trialling things. Lewis ran lower downforce rear wing than George - unsurprisingly, he was slower because of it.

In Q, George struggled to bring the tyres in. Maybe something about the circuit doesn't suit George. Makes tomorrow interesting as once his tyres warm up, he ought to be racey in the midfield.
Won't be easy to cut through the pack based on pace differences in fp2 (alpines within a tenth of Merc's long runs) but the abrasive surface will help with 2 stopper seeming likely. Perez in 11th, Gasly somewhere nearby, Ocon, Alonso, stroll all between George and the top 5.. could be tough to make progress

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With the Aston, alpine, Merc and Ferrari all close in race pace sounds like it's going to boil down to who looks after their tyres better.

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InsaneX_Badger wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 18:37
With the Aston, alpine, Merc and Ferrari all close in race pace sounds like it's going to boil down to who looks after their tyres better.
Yeah which will mean advantage AMR and also lewis going by his past tyre nursing performances. I think in fp2 tyre deg looked similar between Ferrari and Merc. Alonso didn't do enough long run to see deg

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organic wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 18:38
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03 Jun 2023, 18:37
With the Aston, alpine, Merc and Ferrari all close in race pace sounds like it's going to boil down to who looks after their tyres better.
Yeah which will mean advantage AMR and also lewis going by his past tyre nursing performances. I think in fp2 tyre deg looked similar between Ferrari and Merc. Alonso didn't do enough long run to see deg
Be interesting to see if Ferrari can keep their tyres going. They seem to always burn out first

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 18:23
Gillian wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 17:37
Well that was a bit unfortunate contact between Russell and Hamilton. Hamilton's pace is very positive though, looked better than in FP. Hamilton getting comfortable with the car?
In FP the Mercs were trialling things. Lewis ran lower downforce rear wing than George - unsurprisingly, he was slower because of it.

In Q, George struggled to bring the tyres in. Maybe something about the circuit doesn't suit George. Makes tomorrow interesting as once his tyres warm up, he ought to be racey in the midfield.
Yeah true, but I still didn't expect it to be this close! I'm positively surprised. :)

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I think it was a good showing from Hamilton. The less said about Russell, the better... It's curious that Alpine and Mclaren are so close now on Saturdays. Previously you would never imagine Merc being outqualified by Alpine two race weekends in a row.
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 19:10
I think it was a good showing from Hamilton. The less said about Russell, the better... It's curious that Alpine and Mclaren are so close now on Saturdays. Previously you would never imagine Merc being outqualified by Alpine two race weekends in a row.
Today really came down to whoever got the tyres in the right window. Reminds me a little of Hungary 2022, with Mercedes on pole (arguably would have been a 1-2 without HAM's DRS failure), Alpine P5-P6 and Norris P4.

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Translation: Mercedes chassis on the way, the recipient driver is not clear



Does that mean a pit lane start?
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I believe a change of chassis has to be authorised by the FIA. Didnt something happen in Brazil last year where someone swapped chassis due to a safety concern?
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214270 wrote:
03 Jun 2023, 20:11
Translation: Mercedes chassis on the way, the recipient driver is not clear



Does that mean a pit lane start?
It's most likely Russell considering how much he struggled in qualy today.
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