2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Juzh]

This whole thing is just weird.
Look at time delta Ver vs Ham lap 20 and 61. on lap 20 Ver is almost old-renault-like slow on straights, then on lap 61 he's back to expected performance

lap 20
https://i.imgur.com/VTEJung.png

lap 61 (ver in white)
https://i.imgur.com/AyQhfiT.png

Yes, very weird. I don't think F1 would allow to have incorrect data on one single car - the double reigning champion's - so I trust this limited telemetry is correct. In my view there are only two possibilities:

- either the team chooses to preserve the whole powertrain with these settings, which also extends tyre life due to lower acceleration, possibly even allows them to carry slightly less fuel at the start (hey, even 5kg less fuel would be worth it)

- or they are doing something extraordinary with energy storage on Max' car, however this would be hard for FIA and other teams to miss

Maybe it's just fuel saving?

I listened to every radio message and there was no mention of fuel at all, so unlikely. There also wasn't any mention of brakes. So any and all management was done in regards to tyre temps. Management was dropped completely in second stint.

Drivers are constantly adjusting their control inputs based on lap conditions and locations of other cars. Not sure what's surprising about variation in telemetry lap to lap.

This amount of variation is simply too much (in my opinion).

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Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

[TNTHead]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Logical step of the team to evaluate and compare RIC to PER. If RIC performs okay he could even run for years as support driver. See how ALO and HAM perform as aged drivers.

Albon has matured and shows he has speed (similar to RUS I assume) and was from within their driver program. What kind of contract does he have at Williams?

[AR3-GP]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Perez was one of the first drivers to call out how the longer calendar made the circus less appealing. Therefore, him deciding to call time after 2024 would not be surprising.

RB has a long history of Australian drivers bringing all sorts of drama to the team...with accusations of favoritism and blaming everyone except for themselves for their disappointing performances. Hulkenberg seems like the smarter choice.

[Just_a_fan]

RB has a long history of Australian drivers bringing all sorts of drama to the team...with accusations of favoritism and blaming everyone except for themselves for their disappointing performances. Hulkenberg seems like the smarter choice.

Yeah, Multi21 was all Webber's fault.

[AR3-GP]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Logical step of the team to evaluate and compare RIC to PER. If RIC performs okay he could even run for years as support driver. See how ALO and HAM perform as aged drivers.

Is Ricc someone who is interested in being a "support driver".

I think that if RB are looking for a replacement driver for Perez, they should either pick a driver who is truly content with their F1 career and can play a supporting role (Hulkenberg), or pick a driver who wants to win championships, and has the talent to do so (Norris). Ricciardo falls in this middle ground of overestimating his own abilities, to the detriment of the team. Norris seems more like someone who, if RB decide to back him, could actually close out a championship vs other big names. Norris (and Hulk) is great in the wet too. Norris and Hulk also come with compliments about their ability to talk technically about the car to develop it. Ricciardo is not good in the wet and not known for his technical feedback either (this was reported at RB, Renault, and Mclaren).

Nevertheless, if Marko thinks it's a good decision, then he's probably the best judge of that...I'm only an outside opinion.

[Rikhart]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Perez was one of the first drivers to call out how the longer calendar made the circus less appealing. Therefore, him deciding to call time after 2024 would not be surprising.

RB has a long history of Australian drivers bringing all sorts of drama to the team...with accusations of favoritism and blaming everyone except for themselves for their disappointing performances. Hulkenberg seems like the smarter choice.

Hulkenberg is inferior to Perez, why would they swap out the better driver? They have so many other alternatives.

[AR3-GP]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Perez was one of the first drivers to call out how the longer calendar made the circus less appealing. Therefore, him deciding to call time after 2024 would not be surprising.

RB has a long history of Australian drivers bringing all sorts of drama to the team...with accusations of favoritism and blaming everyone except for themselves for their disappointing performances. Hulkenberg seems like the smarter choice.

Hulkenberg is inferior to Perez, why would they swap out the better driver? They have so many other alternatives.

Hulkenberg outqualified Perez last weekend while driving a Haas. Similar driving style to Max. Good in the wet. Good with technical feedback. There are many reasons to consider him. Not everything comes down to their h2h from 6 years ago. Otherwise they would never even consider Ricciardo after his performance at Mclaren.

[mendis]

Marko interview with ORF

https://sport.orf.at/stories/3113363/

Says Perez originally planned only 2-3 more years. And that Ricciardo will be in the car soon for 3 days in a tyre test then they will know where he really is..

Additionally seems to imply the search for a successor is really on now. Tsunoda, Norris (if he ever agrees) or albon (again) are perhaps the best options?

Perez was one of the first drivers to call out how the longer calendar made the circus less appealing. Therefore, him deciding to call time after 2024 would not be surprising.

RB has a long history of Australian drivers bringing all sorts of drama to the team...with accusations of favoritism and blaming everyone except for themselves for their disappointing performances. Hulkenberg seems like the smarter choice.

Hulkenberg is inferior to Perez, why would they swap out the better driver? They have so many other alternatives.

Perez has a 2-1 record against Hulkenberg at Force India. Hulk was also slower qualifier than Perez. Current qualifying form of Hulk has something to do with how Haas is running that car. I don't think he is any better. Doesn't seem to have any kind of race management skills.

[Vanja #66]

If anyone replacing Perez comes from RBR school, it will be Ric. If they wanted to keep Albon, they would have kept him, while Yuki is there only for Honda...

[Wouter]

THE RACE

Sergio Perez’s current F1 form is not good enough for a car that’s dominating the world championship in the hands of Max Verstappen.
Perez is in a qualifying slump that is beginning to look worryingly like a pattern rather than an anomaly, and has lost massive ground in the supposed title fight.
The gap was extended to a massive 69 points in the Canadian Grand Prix, where Verstappen won from a commanding pole and Perez had to engage in another salvage job from 12th to sixth.
Red Bull wants Perez to forget about the title to recapture his best form. But that’s not happening. So why not - and what problems does it cause for Perez and his team as they look to find a way out of what increasingly looks like a very worrying slump?

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Actually a good video from the race

[AR3-GP]

The one thing I couldn't follow with the conspiracies that RB are sabotaging Checo is...why would they go through so many drivers in the 2nd seat and talk about bringing Ricciardo back, if there was no problem with the driver and it was simply because he didn't have the same car as Verstappen . Then would not all they had to do to "fix it", was give him Verstappen's car? Why go through all of the trouble, politics, and media circus of cycling through Gasly, Albon, Perez, and maybe Ricciardo again if the magic answer is "give him Verstappen's car"

and if this isn't bad enough, wait until they put an Australian driver in the other seat...Which is why I think Hulkenberg is the ideal pick. He's more talented than people think. Similar driving style. Good technical feed back, and doesn't have a following in F1 that promotes conspiracies when he is slower.

[Alexf1]

Ricciardo has an oversteer driving style, reason Marko picked him he said in an interview. Look at him swerve: . The Mc Laren is understeering like a FWD touringcar. That's outside of his driving style comfort zone as we saw. Not very good if you're in a constructor based championship instead of a spec series championship. You should be able to take it as it comes and wring its neck. Arrange a truck race for F1 drivers and we'd have the same podium as Canada.

[AR3-GP]

Ricciardo has an oversteer driving style, reason Marko picked him he said in an interview. Look at him swerve: . The Mc Laren is understeering like a FWD touringcar. That's outside of his driving style comfort zone as we saw. Not very good if you're in a constructor based championship instead of a spec series championship. You should be able to take it as it comes and wring its neck. Arrange a truck race for F1 drivers and we'd have the same podium as Canada.

Albon said the same thing about himself and he was lost in the RB.