2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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https://www.racefans.net/2023/06/29/why ... r-upgrade/
McLaren are targeting more than just downforce gains from the major upgrade they will begin to introduce for their MCL60 this weekend, says Lando Norris.

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One significant weakness of the car is its performance through long corners, which there are several of at the Red Bull Ring, the venue for this weekend’s race. Norris said the team needs to improve how its car behaves through corners like these, and adding more downforce isn’t the only change they must make.

“We struggle in corners,” Norris explained. “Long corners are definitely a lot worse for us, high-speed corners are the best. High-speed corners, we’re actually very competitive. In high-speed we’re, I would say, close to being one of the best on the track. But the opposite on the slow-speed corners in a way.

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“But it’s different things, it’s not just the fact it’s a long corner. It’s how you’re able to drive corners, how you’re able to release the brake, that we just don’t have. That’s just not good either. It’s not just that we’re missing 20 points of downforce on the front, 20 points downforce on the rear. It’s the actual handling, the characteristic of the car that we also need to fix in some ways.”

Some of the changes McLaren are looking to make address long-standing characteristics in their car’s handling, said Norris, who has been with the team since he arrived in F1 in 2019.
He also goes on to talk about problems in slow corners, and Saturday vs Sunday performance issues.

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Looks a decent size upgrade, they made the undercut even deeper and still managed an agressive waterslide, also like most, the halo now merge into a vertical flowconditioner with a small winglet on the side

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Have we heard anything about the MCL60's weight? There just seems to be a lot of black on this car with a sprinkle of orange.

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Interesting Zak Brown interview on the Toyota windtunnel.

https://racingnews365.com/exclusive-bro ... n-facility

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swifteddie1 wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 06:18
Interesting Zak Brown interview on the Toyota windtunnel.

https://racingnews365.com/exclusive-bro ... n-facility
Yeah, good points about how you can get less value for money out of your budget.

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Lando Norris doubts McLaren’s major Formula 1 car upgrade will be enough to vault Alpine in the pecking order even though he calls it “a lot more of a pure performance” gain.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/norriss- ... g-upgrade/

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Lucky wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 07:58
Lando Norris doubts McLaren’s major Formula 1 car upgrade will be enough to vault Alpine in the pecking order even though he calls it “a lot more of a pure performance” gain.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/norriss- ... g-upgrade/
I think he downplays fan expectations!

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MTudor wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 08:24
Lucky wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 07:58
Lando Norris doubts McLaren’s major Formula 1 car upgrade will be enough to vault Alpine in the pecking order even though he calls it “a lot more of a pure performance” gain.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/norriss- ... g-upgrade/
I think he downplays fan expectations!
Perhaps.
We'll find out soon.

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New floor potentially arrived overnight?


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organic wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 10:20
New floor potentially arrived overnight?

A spare maybe?
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 11:00
organic wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 10:20
New floor potentially arrived overnight?

A spare maybe?
It could be, but I suspect that the Mclaren build crew will not have been making any more old parts and that they will have been fully focussed on the new designs, so if the floor really has come in overnight then this could be another part of the upgrade.
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Yes, it is a brand new fully revised floor, it was confirmed in the FIA documents.
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mwillems wrote:
30 Jun 2023, 13:57
Yes, it is a brand new fully revised floor, it was confirmed in the FIA documents.
Stopped by Woking today… Hopefully it will be a good weekend for the team!

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Anyone losing it, saying upgrades don't work yet?

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Yup, I think this team is doomed forever. Might as well pull the plug on the entire project before qualifying and start a papaya candy operation.