2023 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[Matt2725]

Well the Merc is obviously still a work in progress. Looks like the Ferrari has pace with the tweaks they brought and McLaren should have two cars in the mix now as well. I think it'll be a four team fight for best of the rest in Silverstone. Really curious to see if the new floor can deliver.

Worth noting that McLaren always go well at Austria. I am fully expecting they'll drop back to the midfield next weekend at Silverstone.

[denyall]

Well the Merc is obviously still a work in progress. Looks like the Ferrari has pace with the tweaks they brought and McLaren should have two cars in the mix now as well. I think it'll be a four team fight for best of the rest in Silverstone. Really curious to see if the new floor can deliver.

Worth noting that McLaren always go well at Austria. I am fully expecting they'll drop back to the midfield next weekend at Silverstone.

That is a good point. As is always the case time will tell.

[Hammerfist]

I dont think they even came close to nailing their setup this weekend. The sprint format claimed another victim. Looked like they didnt want to be embarrassed down the straights and chose too little downforce and the balance didnt seem good at all. I will wait for the debrief to see what really happened but right now that is my impression.

[Mchamilton]

Austria has always been a toss track for the Mercedes and this year is no different. I expect them to be back to Canada level in Silverstone

[PlatinumZealot]

Poor front end performance this race. The rear traction was actually decent. So maybe Mercedes played around too much in the short 1 hour FP session that they had on Friday. Should have been more conservative maybe.

George nowhere again?

[ringo]

Well the Merc is obviously still a work in progress. Looks like the Ferrari has pace with the tweaks they brought and McLaren should have two cars in the mix now as well. I think it'll be a four team fight for best of the rest in Silverstone. Really curious to see if the new floor can deliver.

Worth noting that McLaren always go well at Austria. I am fully expecting they'll drop back to the midfield next weekend at Silverstone.

Thr car was well poised and seemed easier to drive. I feel it has improved and may not fall back too far come next race.
The redbull pace is worrying. I am doubtful merc catch redbull by season end.

[j_ste]

On one hand. Even great Mercedes cars have ben trounced by Red Bull in Austria.

But on the other hand, to be easily beaten by four different teams, is mildly embarrassing.

Not being able to turn the car appears to be something that could hurt performance but I'm just a nobody

[DGP123]

I am doubtful merc catch redbull by season end.

No chance. Don’t think anyone realistically believed that. I doubt anyone gets remotely close to them, until, 25’.

George nowhere again?

Been AWOL since the updated car came. Looks more like a Bottas type now, than ever. He enjoyed some luck last season, but now he’s being exposed. He’s a good driver, just not elite. The reason Mercedes will extend Hamilton’s contract.

[ringo]

I feel george still races well. He did move up from 11th or whereever.
Maybe he's confused fighting in the midfeild. Doesnt know wether he's driving a williams or a merc and his pitstop and tyre gambles are less clear to make.
He didnt catch hamilton even after the prnalty and they came out about 7 seconds apart. Hamilton opened the gap and things settled.

[AR3-GP]

Hamilton:

Asked by The Race how much of a surprise this performance was after an encouraging Montreal race, he adds: "I don’t really have an answer for it really. It’s a good question.

"It’s definitely surprising but the feeling of the car was much the same as I feel I’ve had for the last year. So in that respect it’s not the biggest surprise."

https://the-race.com/live-f1-2023-austr ... ace-day/#0

[Hammerfist]

I can’t blame George for today. His pace was similar to Lewis. He had to clear some cars and started way back. The donkey was the car this weekend. The drivers were ok.

[dans79]

I can’t blame George for today. His pace was similar to Lewis. He had to clear some cars and started way back. The donkey was the car this weekend. The drivers were ok.

Yea the team fluffed the set-up somehow, lewis complained over the radio more than I think i've ever heard him before.

[ringo]

Well today showed Lewis still has good reactions. His starts are consistently good.
The car just doesnt have good grip.
The monaco upgrade seems like it wae overhyped now. Everyone else made steps and we are back at square 1. 3rd to 5th best fighting aston and now mclaren. Ferrari have made a good step since 3 races now but were just able to have a clean weekend.
I fear silverstone will be a fight with ferrari and mclaren with ferrari being way better. I think Aston will be a little weaker.
Did the team indicate what will be upgraded?

[organic]

Well today showed Lewis still has good reactions. His starts are consistently good.
The car just doesnt have good grip.
The monaco upgrade seems like it wae overhyped now. Everyone else made steps and we are back at square 1. 3rd to 5th best fighting aston and now mclaren. Ferrari have made a good step since 3 races now but were just able to have a clean weekend.
I fear silverstone will be a fight with ferrari and mclaren with ferrari being way better. I think Aston will be a little weaker.
Did the team indicate what will be upgraded?

I'm expecting at least a new floor. But I havent seen any indication from the team itself what the update will entail. They may say in the race review posted on their YouTube/website

[AMG.Tzan]

Well today showed Lewis still has good reactions. His starts are consistently good.
The car just doesnt have good grip.
The monaco upgrade seems like it wae overhyped now. Everyone else made steps and we are back at square 1. 3rd to 5th best fighting aston and now mclaren. Ferrari have made a good step since 3 races now but were just able to have a clean weekend.
I fear silverstone will be a fight with ferrari and mclaren with ferrari being way better. I think Aston will be a little weaker.
Did the team indicate what will be upgraded?

The thing is everyone's been bringing updates and the power rankings keep changing between the teams!

What isn't changing though?? The gap to Red Bull! And this is ominous even for 2024-2025! Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin all brought big upgrades! Red Bull didn't! Yet the gap in race pace is still huge and close to 1 second per lap!

Those supposedly huge updates for Silverstone, they better bring some performance cause otherwise we're "damned" for the rest of these regulations! And by no means am I expecting to challenge Red Bull for the championship next year...but at least we should be able to capitalize on circumstances like Max starting from 10-15th like Miami!

If we're unable to even capitalize on circumstances like these like Ferrari and RB used to do back in 2014-2020 then what's the point even racing really??

Anyway, I think this track really showcased our car's bad characteristics! Slow speed, start-stop corners and long straights! Silverstone is supposed to be a much better fit for our car but still I don't expect much really...